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December 29th, 2020 at 7:34:38 PM permalink
rxwine
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https://www.thenewsstar.com/story/news/2020/12/29/louisiana-congressman-elect-luke-letlow-dies-covid/4082977001/
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December 29th, 2020 at 8:12:36 PM permalink
Evenbob
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It's hitting the fan finally. Hospital
records are being forensically
examined and so far, 15% to
30% of non covid caused deaths
are blamed on covid. Suicides,
car accidents, drug overdoses,
shooting accidents. Why? Because
the feds pay a hospital $77,000
for every covid patient or covid
death. It's a scam so doctors can
keep making their Mercedes
payments. My sister in law has
been a hospital nurse for over
20 years and she has always said
doctors are the worst liars and
crooks out there. They lie about
everything and when caught,
blame it on the hospital staff.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 29th, 2020 at 8:31:57 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Evenbob
It's a scam so doctors can
keep making their Mercedes
payments.


The numbers of deaths per month attributed to COVID are pretty high compared to the roughly 238,000 people who normally die from all causes in the US. If it was really that widespread, you would surely see a mismatch between excess deaths over normal and reported COVID deaths.

For example COVID deaths in Dec 2020 are 26% of all deaths in Dec 2019. If cheating were really widespread, you would expect the excess deaths to be 10%-15%.

COVID deaths reported so far
1 Feb
5,277 Mar
60,738 Apr
41,703 May
20,112 Jun
26,446 Jul
29,532 Aug
23,418 Sep
23,974 Oct
36,964 Nov
66,671 Dec
334,836

All deaths from any cause in the US reported in 2019
258,000 January
233,000 February
255,000 March
235,000 April
237,000 May
225,000 June
229,000 July
227,000 August
223,000 September -------- lowest month for the year
238,000 October
239,000 November
256,000 December
237,917 average
December 29th, 2020 at 10:44:11 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: rxwine
https://www.thenewsstar.com/story/news/2020/12/29/louisiana-congressman-elect-luke-letlow-dies-covid/4082977001/


The hoax claims another one.
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December 29th, 2020 at 11:00:44 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: ams288
The hoax claims another one.


It wouldn't surprise me if he got it at a maskless celebration party of his election win.
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December 29th, 2020 at 11:17:05 PM permalink
rxwine
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This is my favorite new debunked story.

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December 30th, 2020 at 6:38:52 AM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: ams288
The hoax claims another one.


Quote:
LSU Health Shreveport Chancellor G.E. Ghali said Letlow died from a heart attack following a procedure related to the infection.
...

"He had no underlying conditions," Ghali said. "It was just COVID."


Got a little of everything in there.
He was 41, and had no underlying conditions.
"It was just covid" and he "died from a heart attack" which of course he wouldn't have had if he hadn't had covid. Does this become another "covid death lie" from the right?
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December 30th, 2020 at 7:49:42 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: Dalex64
Got a little of everything in there.
He was 41, and had no underlying conditions.
"It was just covid" and he "died from a heart attack" which of course he wouldn't have had if he hadn't had covid. Does this become another "covid death lie" from the right?


So NO 41 year old men will die from heart attacks? If he had severe enough coronary artery disease that a viral infection ‘caused’ the heart attack, then he was not long for this world anyway. What percent we should call this a COVID death versus what percent we should call this a heart disease death depends on multiple factors... which neither you nor I are privy to.

Remember.... I am NOT a COVID denier .... It is a total disaster. When ICU beds are overflowing and ‘elective’ surgeries are postponed because of lack of resources.... that is BAD! But there are deaths that occur every day for a multitude of reasons. COVID-19 deaths will still lag cigarette related deaths in 2020. Isn’t THAT an amazing fact!
December 30th, 2020 at 8:16:06 AM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: SOOPOO
So NO 41 year old men will die from heart attacks? If he had severe enough coronary artery disease that a viral infection ‘caused’ the heart attack, then he was not long for this world anyway. What percent we should call this a COVID death versus what percent we should call this a heart disease death depends on multiple factors... which neither you nor I are privy to.

Remember.... I am NOT a COVID denier .... It is a total disaster. When ICU beds are overflowing and ‘elective’ surgeries are postponed because of lack of resources.... that is BAD! But there are deaths that occur every day for a multitude of reasons. COVID-19 deaths will still lag cigarette related deaths in 2020. Isn’t THAT an amazing fact!


Well, what I have seen from people (deniers) is "only the old and sick" will die from covid,
And as for the condition of the heart and arteries of this particular patient, all I can say is the article said he had no underlying conditions.

As for the number of cigarettes deaths, that is starting to sound like "there is always something worse, so don't bother with anything else".

Also, along the lines of cigarettes deaths, I think there are a few relevant similarities - sick people, from covid or cigarettes, raise costs for everyone, and second hand smoke is dangerous and now various locales have laws to start to protect people from it. We should continue to take steps towards mitigating both problems, not just cigarettes because they are either "worse" or the problem is accepted as a necessary evil, or both.
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December 30th, 2020 at 8:23:16 AM permalink
rxwine
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Posts: 18775
Quote:
In July of 1776 the entire … city of Boston was closed so they could safely inoculate for smallpox. It lasted months and no one could leave once it began. They did it again in 1778,” Andrew Wehrman, a history professor at Central Michigan University, tweeted. “The Founders would be proud that the government was protecting its citizens from disease.”

“There was a massive smallpox epidemic during the American Revolution. George Washington quarantined the infected, refused to let people from hot spots travel to his army, and even sent a thousand soldiers to Boston to prevent the spread there,” Kevin Kruse, a historian at Princeton University, tweeted in response to Jordan’s tweet.

Indeed, during the American Revolution, smallpox began spreading within the Continental Army and amongst civilians in Boston. To help prevent further spread, Washington isolated those suspected of being infected and prevented anyone from Boston from entering the military zone, according to National Geographic. Washington later had soldiers undergo variolation — a precursor to vaccination in which a dose of the live virus was inserted into a patient’s arm — to increase immunity against smallpox.
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