The Coronavirus thread

Quote: Gandler

Its not me, there are several articles from mainstream sources that phrase it like that. .

Not just media articles, but in the Presidential debate they referred to the US having "one of the worst death rate in the developed world".

It's a distracting way to characterize the situation, as there is no significant variance between the COVID death rates of the US, Italy, Spain, France and Britain.

0.168% Belgium (may be reporting standards)
0.124% Italy
0.109% Czechia
0.109% UK
0.109% Spain
0.107% USA
0.102% Liechtenstein
0.100% Hungary
0.099% France
0.097% Mexico
0.095% Argentina
0.093% Panama
0.092% Brazil
0.088% Switzerland

Quote: Gandler

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-12/u-s-trails-other-developed-nations-in-curbing-virus-deaths

The Bloomberg article omits demographics and obesity as contributing factors in the number of deaths.

The combined populations of France, Italy, Spain, UK, Germany, Sweden, and Belgium is nearly the same as the US population. Those nations have seen 326K Covid deaths, compared to 354K in the US.

36% of the U.S. population is obese, versus 23% for those nations.

"They found that people with obesity who contracted SARS-CoV-2 were 113% more likely than people of healthy weight to land in the hospital, 74% more likely to be admitted to an ICU, and 48% more likely to die.”

The rate of obesity in the US is 64% higher than it is in those nations.

The US has a large Black, Hispanic and Native American population. 48% of Blacks and Latinos are clinically obese. 33% of all native Americans are obese.

Those groups are dying at rates higher than their percent of the population.

Whites and Asians are dying at rates lower than their percent of the population.

Quote: Tanko

The rate of obesity in the US is 64% higher than it is in those nations.

That's an excellent point!

That is all true. America is an unhealthy country compared to many others. That does not change the overall death rate if you are just looking at total COVID-19 deaths in a country.

When Covid-19 started people blamed the high numbers in Italy based on its high smoking rates (while true), does not negate the numbers when looking at the impact on a country....

Quote: Gandler

That is all true. America is an unhealthy country compared to many others. That does not change the overall death rate if you are just looking at total COVID-19 deaths in a country.

Some countries have a death rate only a small percentage of the US. No one single explanation can come close to explaining the difference. Not rich nor poor, crowded cities or mostly urban, not even European or non European


39% Canada
38% Germany
23% Turkey
...
7.87% Philippines
7.58% Indonesia
3.28% Australia
1.97% Haiti
1.69% S. Korea
0.47% New Zealand
0.28% China
0.08% Thailand
0.04% Vietnam
0.03% Taiwan

December ended up with some terrible numbers

cases	End of Month	Deaths
7	Jan 31, 2020
17	Feb 29, 2020	1
192,152	Mar 31, 2020	5,277
887,984	Apr 30, 2020	60,738
717,216	May 31, 2020	41,703
834,517	Jun 30, 2020	20,112
1,924,573	Jul 31, 2020	26,446
1,463,028	Aug 31, 2020	29,532
1,203,386	Sep 30, 2020	23,418
1,918,531	Oct 31, 2020	23,974
4,466,454	Nov 30, 2020	36,964
6,360,221	Dec 31, 2020	77,572
19,968,086	Total for 2020	345,737

https://apnews.com/article/los-angeles-coronavirus-pandemic-california-united-states-c7f6c6d07abb092f536cce191e62a932?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
Funeral homes turning away business. It's that busy. Sad

This is great. A snowflake loses it
in an elevator because a delivery
guys mask slipped. This is the
future if the Libs get their way.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1345762418245464065

The number of cases is going way up, but a smaller percentage are dying.

COVID
deaths / cases = death rate
183,809 / 6,019,494 =3.05% | from beginning of COVID (1 January 2020) through end of August
84,356 / 7,588,371 = 1.11% | Sept - November 2020 (3 months)
77,572 / 6,360,221 = 1.22% | December 2020

Quote: Evenbob

This is great. A snowflake loses it
in an elevator because a delivery
guys mask slipped. This is the
future if the Libs get their way.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1345762418245464065

We already got our way on Nov. 3.