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April 13th, 2020 at 2:51:43 PM permalink | |
SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4178 |
Ok. Cogent thought. Then say it has been blown out of proportion. Don't say it is a hoax. NYC does NOT want to destroy itself. What don't you understand about not having a hospital bed to put an extremely sick patient in? Without the steps taken there would be tens of thousands more to be left dying at home or on the streets. At some time, hopefully soon, New Yorkers will be dying at a rate that some will find acceptable, and their economy will open up. I absolutely agree with you that other areas might be able to open up sooner and more fully. |
April 13th, 2020 at 4:02:26 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Been there twice, was miserable both times. Looked to me they had destroyed themselves long ago. Why anybody would live there on purpose is a mystery. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
April 13th, 2020 at 4:05:10 PM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Everyone understands that, it is just that people should also focus on the causes for that situation and on the demographics profile of the sick patient. The patient may have to pay for a politician's inaction. Remember, this is a Lifeboat Ethics situation and not all people in the lifeboat are equal. As in ANY triage situation decision making is skewed from it would be under conditions of leisure and plentiful resources. |
April 13th, 2020 at 4:12:31 PM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12536 | Hahaha, this is amazing. Watch Paula Reid hold Donny accountable for his slow response to the pandemic (aka insisting that it would magically go away throughout the entire month of February): Donny doesn’t like hearing the truth on live TV. Flounders about, calls her names, screams fake news, brings up Biden (LOL!!). (Sorry, the only YouTube channel that had posted the clip so far is run by some right wing monster.) “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
April 13th, 2020 at 6:07:42 PM permalink | |
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 | Cumulative US deaths as of March 31: 3,806 Cumulative US deaths as of April 13: 23,621 Which means that so far in the month of April, there were 19,815 deaths in the US. That's an average of 1,524 deaths per day in April. |
April 13th, 2020 at 6:46:34 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4521 |
And your point is? Throwing that number out with no context, you must have learned that from the MSM. Is it bigger when it is high lited? The average number of deaths per day in the US in 2017 was 7708. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
April 13th, 2020 at 8:36:03 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18764 |
Sorry dude, it's not killing enough people for you compared to deaths from all causes. We'll try to do better. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
April 13th, 2020 at 9:28:01 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | Fox news points out that Covid-19 is now the #1 killer in the u.s. https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-now-killing-more-americans-than-cancer-heart-disease-report "COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, is now the No. 1 cause of death in the U.S. -- killing more people on average per day than cancer or heart disease." "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
April 13th, 2020 at 9:55:37 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Perhaps the fairest way to compare countries is to look at the death rate per coronavirus as measured each day, to the expected death rate for the country. The expected death rate takes into account the age and health of the country and makes heavy use of historical data. The worst-hit country, Spain, is seeing the coronavirus increase the expected death rate by 4.6%, while other countries are around 1% (including Sweden which did not issue stay at home quarantine). Germany has the highest expected death of the five countries shown but has so far experiencing the lowest coronavirus death rate of the five. The expected death rate has been increased by only 0.3% Death rate coronavirus: Spain- 38.0 per 100,000 US - 7.1 per 100,000 Sweden - 9.1 per 100,000 Ireland - 7.4 per 100,000 Germany - 3.8 per 100,000 Death rate all causes: Spain - 8.3 per 1,000 US - 8.3 per 1,000 Sweden - 9.4 per 1,000 Ireland - 6.8 per 1,000 Germany - 12.1 per 1,000 Coronavirus increase above expected death rate Spain 38.0/8.3=4.6% US 7.1/8.3=0.9% Sweden 9.1/9.4=1.0% Ireland 7.4/6.8=1.1% Germany 3.8/12.1=0.3% References https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?/embed/fd0k_hbXWcQ#countries https://www.census.gov/data-tools/demo/idb/region.php?T=7&RT=0&A=both&Y=2020&C=US&R= |
April 13th, 2020 at 9:58:15 PM permalink | |
Shrek Member since: Aug 13, 2019 Threads: 6 Posts: 1635 |
But that's what a hoax is! According to Wiki it's "a falsehood deliberately fabricated to masquerade as the truth". And the whole "scare" is a hoax because it's not nearly as bad as the libbies claim it is. I wrote:
I can't take credit for calling it that though. I got that from Dr. Ron Paul in his piece The Coronavirus Hoax Dr. Paul is a very very smart man. I wish some nameless libbies out there would read him, but we all know that ain't gonna happen. 🙄 |