Was Jesus God?

Quote: FrGamble

it is not according the nature of our bodies to stick our genitals in someone's mouth or anus. It is also unnatural to remove someone's egg and sperm and fertilize it in a petri dish somewhere.

Not natural for you is what you mean to say.
Riding in a car in unnatural, flying in a plane,
transmitting pictures and sounds over the
airwaves, bouncing signals off of satellites
so we can talk to each other, none of these
things are natural yet we take them for
granted. So doing what you want with your
genitals with an agreeable partner is certainly
not in the slightest bit unnatural. Unless your
an uptight holier than thou religious type, that
is.

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I almost feel embarrassed for you having to make this argument.

Ah, condescension again. You really can't
help it, can you. It permeates your very
nature, you're an elitist snob, like so many
in the Church. It oozes from your pores
like Italians who eat too much garlic. Ever
ride a city bus in Rome in summer? The
smell of garlic and sweat will almost trigger
the gag reflex.

Quote: FrGamble

You last answer was not an answer it was just a needless insult.

"Needless"??

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I removed the line you found particularly offensive, but I would still be curious as your answer if you can. If not I understand, nobody wants to see you suspended.

That line you removed was the one I found the least offensive.

Look, I am not going to answer offensive, insensitive questions.

I am also not going to take what is willful obfuscation on your part as my position and defend it. And if you're not obfuscating, then you need to brush up on philosophy and semantics, and get a dictionary while you're at it. Then explain why you think "political" and "moral" somehow equal "metaphysical."

And if I were to answer you in the way you deserve, I'd likely get suspended.

Quote: Evenbob

Not natural for you is what you mean to say.
Riding in a car in unnatural, flying in a plane,
transmitting pictures and sounds over the
airwaves, bouncing signals off of satellites
so we can talk to each other, none of these
things are natural yet we take them for
granted.

All of the things you mentioned are very natural. What is not natural about travelling or communicating? We were made to move around and we were made to communicate, the things you mentioned help us to do that better. The assist the natural way we live our lives.

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Ever
ride a city bus in Rome in summer? The
smell of garlic and sweat will almost trigger
the gag reflex.

I lived in Rome for many years and you are once again wrong. What you perceive as condescension is the feeling that you have been proven wrong.

Quote: Nareed

Look, I am not going to answer offensive, insensitive questions.

I seriously would love to understand better why the question is offensive or insensitive.

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I am also not going to take what is willful obfuscation on your part as my position and defend it. And if you're not obfuscating, then you need to brush up on philosophy and semantics, and get a dictionary while you're at it. Then explain why you think "political" and "moral" somehow equal "metaphysical."

It sounds like I do need to brush up on my philosophy and semantics but you may need to brush up on your patience and ability to express yourself in ways that make sense or help me and others understand you. Should not metaphysical realities be represented in the political and moral realms.

Quote: FrGamble

I seriously would love to understand better why the question is offensive or insensitive.

Can you tell us why you would seriously love to understand better?

I am seriously glad you are here.

Quote: FrGamble

Should not metaphysical realities be represented in the political and moral realms.

Should men and women not have equal rights? Should men own women? Should men be held to a lower moral standard than women?

Do you really not see the difference?

BTW Insensitive means asking a question repeatedly after it's clear I won't answer.

Quote: FrGamble

I seriously would love to understand better why the question is offensive or insensitive.

You can't understand it. You've never been discriminated, ridiculed, threatened or dismissed because of what you are. And I'm not going to explain because you'd then just keep asking for clarification.

I won't answer, because the question was offensive and insensitive.

On top of that, you were asking I defend, support or explain something I didn't say. I'm not responsible for providing support, or arguments against, a position I've not, and never have, taken.

Seriously, stop asking this. We're at war and I won't hold back.

Quote: FrGamble

All of the things you mentioned are very natural.

Like putting your member wherever you
and a partner decide it belongs. It doesn't
get anymore natural than that.

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I lived in Rome for many years and you are once again wrong.

I rode a city bus in Rome in July
and had to literally hang my head
out the window to keep from
vomiting at the smell of garlic and
unwashed BO from a bunch of
Italians. It was like mustard gas from
WWI, my eyes were watering.

If you didn't notice it, you probably
smelled as bad as they did. I used
to get garlic in the 90's in quart jars
and ate it with every meal for awhile.
After a few weeks people would see
me coming and head the other way,
it was coming out my pores and they
would hold their noses. I quit doing
it and they eventually forgave me.

They sell some pickled garlic around here, it is highly addictive.

Crunchy and dill, makes my mouth water typing about it. : )

Quote: FrGamble

Should not metaphysical realities be represented

Good ol 'metaphysical realities' the orig
oxymoron. What a time waster. There are
no wrong answers in metaphysics, so
anything you come up with is right.

Here's a clue, there is no supernatural,
everything is part of the natural world.
Even ghosts. It's all a part of nature, it's
all right there, it's not hiding from anybody.
No gods, no devils, no secrets. Declaring
something unnatural means you don't
understand it, or worse, you have an agenda
it doesn't fit into. A religion, for instance.