Was Jesus God?

December 8th, 2015 at 2:10:17 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Nareed
But wouldn't the child be better off with a straight couple?


Not necessarily.

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Would you advise any couple who adopts a child to involve the biological parents as well?


Again if possible and if it makes sense I think the child has a right and the biological parents have a right as well. However, sometimes in adoptions the biological parents are not fit to be involved or for various reasons do not want to be involved.
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December 8th, 2015 at 2:11:39 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Real women conceive immaculately!


LOL! That is a good one. Unfortunately I should point out that today's feast is about the conception of Mary and not the miraculous conception of Jesus.
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December 8th, 2015 at 2:41:45 PM permalink
Evenbob
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You aren't going to answer this question?

Quote: FrGamble
it is better for a child to be raised by a mother and father.


Do you say to a Lesbian couple who want to
have a baby:

It is better for a child to be raised by a mother and father.
But if that is not possible, as in your case, you have my
blessing to have and raise a baby.

This is an easy and straightforward question.
Would you ever say this to a Lesbian couple?
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December 8th, 2015 at 3:06:12 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Bob, you are missing an important part to your so called "easy" question. How is this couple going to have a baby? I don't believe children should be conceived in laboratories and implanted into women, they should be conceived in bedrooms. Therefore, I would not say what you suggest to a lesbian couple.
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December 8th, 2015 at 3:10:55 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Bob, you are missing an important part to your so called "easy" question. How is this couple going to have a baby? I don't believe children should be conceived in laboratories and implanted into women, they should be conceived in bedrooms. Therefore, I would not say what you suggest to a lesbian couple.


Suppose one of them was already pregnant,
then.

Do you say to the Lesbian couple who want to
have the baby:

It is better for a child to be raised by a mother and father.
But if that is not possible, as in your case, you have my
blessing to have and raise a baby.

This is an easy and straightforward question.
Would you ever say this to a Lesbian couple?
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 8th, 2015 at 3:12:45 PM permalink
FrGamble
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In that case I would be able to say this to the couple. I would of course ask more questions about if it would be wise or feasible to include the father for his sake and that of the child.
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December 8th, 2015 at 3:26:37 PM permalink
boymimbo
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Sigh. What is best for the child? How do adoption agencies determine which parent(s) get babies?

I dunno. If there was a scoring system based on pass/fail (where pass is "adequately be able to care for and raise a baby"), then you would simply go down the queue not thinking about the sexuality of the parents and include qualified single moms (and dads) in the equation. If you decided to go down the route of rating each parent out of 100 say and then give the highest scores to each kids, then I would have to say some weight would have to be given to parents who have great support systems and whose skills as a parent complement each other. Ideally, you think of a nuclear family (male father, female mother) when you come up with that and who has had success so far at raising kids. But I am sure there are gay couples where their skills complement each other.

It's a great social experiment. We already know that the outcomes for children with single parents are normally far worse than those of kids whose parents are married. I did young offender work earlier in my life, and of 500+ boys who came in the home, 99.2% of them (all but 5) had divorced parents. But I would go further down the route and say that the kids are acting out because of a lack of love from a person who should be in their lives (their father, always).

As for adopted children of homosexual parents, it won't be long before we see results there. My feeling however is that if gay parents go through the hoops of wanting and raising children and pass the already high bar set, the kids will probably be okay.

I dunno. My daughter is the product of divorce, is gay, and is excelling at one of the world's best universities. So there are exceptions.
December 8th, 2015 at 3:31:21 PM permalink
Nareed
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Take heart Nareed that there is one Christian (me) who is with you.


I'm sure not all Christians are against me (some haven't met me yet <w>), and I'm sure some Christians are with me. But when they get the pronouns wrong, I have a very hard time believing it.

I've had people claim to be with me, while crushing me under their heel as hard as possible. religious, non-religious, atheists, all kinds. Even Trekkies.
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December 8th, 2015 at 3:36:27 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
In that case I would be able to say this to the couple. I would of course ask more questions about if it would be wise or feasible to include the father for his sake and that of the child.


There is no father! They don't know who he
is, there is no male involved. Would you give
them your blessing and send them on their
way. Or would you tell them the Church can't
can't give it's permission for them to raise
the child.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 8th, 2015 at 3:42:29 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
75% of married people have no sex at all,
that's why men visit prostitutes. It has nothing
to do with what fits where and how it feels.


You seem to be changing your story when challenged. First you said it was "natural" to use a body exit as an entry. Then you said men paid because it felt so good. Then when I pointed out it does not seem to fee so good to the person catching you are changing it again.
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