Pot Legalized

Quote: FrGamble

Yeah the leg cramps up and without the use of your legs to hold you up you actually asphyxiate on the cross.

Same people still making the decisions

I went to the mmj store yesterday. It was the most crowded I have seen it. Come to find out they were celebrating their one year in business anniversary.

They had a live band outside and were giving away hot dogs. I won't eat that stuff. But I stepped outside my norm and asked the guy next to me and also looked at some of the other patrons. The guy next to me was in surgery one hour prior for his back. Whew. I don't know what every ones reasons were for their mmj license and I suspect some may be there for something pretty simple. It is interesting to me to talk with some of them to find out what they are trying to treat and what their results may be.

I know a drowning man will grasp anything that floats. Everyone that lives long enough needs to get involved in their own healthcare and not just leave it up to anyone with a prescription pad. My experience lately dictates that, that practice is generally "sick care" not health care. Unfortunately mmj is all out of pocket, but the side effects are much easier to tolerate. Az, has some tough stipulations on who can grow, and I am way to long in the tooth to do anything that may have jail time as a consequence.

Quote: petroglyph

Everyone needs to get involved in their own healthcare and not just leave it up to anyone with a prescription pad. My experience lately dictates that, that practice is generally "sick care" not health care. I am way to long in the tooth to do anything that may have jail time as a consequence.

I'm all for being involved in your own medical care: One young nursing assistant asked me "Are you a doctor or an investigator, your vocabulary is simply too medically oriented."

Jail time? The recently jugged Rolf Harris is 81, was spat upon in prison, supposedly the victim of extortion, had his paints confiscated and despite his respiratory problems is in a dank, moldy prison where he has lost 14 pounds on prison rations.

Quote: Fleastiff

I'm all for being involved in your own medical care: One young nursing assistant asked me "Are you a doctor or an investigator, your vocabulary is simply too medically oriented."

Of course.

If I have any medical issues at all I'm reading up on anything I can find. I want to be knowledgeable as possible about what decisions need to made. You only live once (as far as I know)

Quote: Fleastiff

I'm all for being involved in your own medical care: One young nursing assistant asked me "Are you a doctor or an investigator, your vocabulary is simply too medically oriented."

Jail time? The recently jugged Rolf Harris is 81, was spat upon in prison, supposedly the victim of extortion, had his paints confiscated and despite his respiratory problems is in a dank, moldy prison where he has lost 14 pounds on prison rations.

He's the one protected by the BBC, correct?

A friend gives us their old newspapers, I was just reading Aug. 8th's.

An article in one said, Khieu Samphan 83 and Nuaon Chea 88 got life imprisonment. They were heads of State under Pol Pot and were responsible for killing one quarter of Cambodia's population. Too little too late.

Didn't Rolf travel to other countries doing his dastardly deeds, under diplomatic like cover? IIRC

Fleastiff, fmi, do you live aboard?

Quote: Evenbob

It was in England, was on Drudge a few days
ago. Search his recent headlines.

Wow, I actually found it! Credit where credit is due, Evenbob was not making this up (as I assumed he was).

Link to study.

I haven't read the whole article yet, but a couple of the bullet points at the top refer to teen marijuana use. I do believe this is a problem, as the effects of drugs on the brain, including weed, are incredibly dangerous on young people. Damaging the brain during its developmental years is not good...Dr. Drew rails on this on Loveline all the time. I haven't read the literature, but I think the danger to your brain's development starts to taper off around 16...so even late teen use isn't that bad. But kids 12, 13, 14 smoking weed or taking ecstasy or other hallucinogens...really bad.

That being said, I still favor legalized marijuana. There is a risk that more kids will smoke, sure. But I believe it is outweighed by the other benefits of legalization.

Parents, talk to your kids about drugs, and alcohol...

Quote:

One in six teenagers who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it,
Cannabis doubles the risk of developing psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia,
Cannabis users do worse at school. Heavy use in adolescence appears to impair intellectual development
One in ten adults who regularly smoke the drug become dependent on it and those who use it are more likely to go on to use harder drugs,
Driving after smoking cannabis doubles the risk of a car crash, a risk which increases substantially if the driver has also had a drink,
Smoking it while pregnant reduces the baby’s birth weight.

Shouldn't be driving, shouldn't be smoking while pregnant, teenagers shouldn't be drinking smoking, or using drugs, huffing aerosol(but what you going to do?)

I mean, the study points out some stuff --- seems like Captain Obvious on some of it.

I am not surprised when anyone who is willing to try any intoxicant might be more likely to try others and get hooked. Not just marijuana.

Quote: AcesAndEights

Wow, I actually found it! Credit where credit is due, Evenbob was not making this up (as I assumed he was).

Link to study.

I haven't read the whole article yet, but a couple of the bullet points at the top refer to teen marijuana use. I do believe this is a problem, as the effects of drugs on the brain, including weed, are incredibly dangerous on young people. Damaging the brain during its developmental years is not good...Dr. Drew rails on this on Loveline all the time. I haven't read the literature, but I think the danger to your brain's development starts to taper off around 16...so even late teen use isn't that bad. But kids 12, 13, 14 smoking weed or taking ecstasy or other hallucinogens...really bad.

That being said, I still favor legalized marijuana. There is a risk that more kids will smoke, sure. But I believe it is outweighed by the other benefits of legalization.

Parents, talk to your kids about drugs, and alcohol...

The study is just another lie, and so littered with false claims that it will do as much good at stopping serious drug use as did the film "Reefer Madness"

If our governments really wanted to help stop dangerous drug use instead of fund covert ops with the money they make then they would start by telling the truth.

Kids are not stupid. They learn amazingly fast and intuitively, and when they are lied to or mis-informed they near instantly lose trust especially of adults. It is already nearly impossible to compete with peer pressure.

Absolutely talk to them! And if you are an aunt or uncle or just interested get in there and be real and honest, they can smell subterfuge and they are ruthless. After all this is war. Sun Tzu their asses and keep the goal in mind not the route. A kid won't die from a joint or six, when talking to them [if it applies] tell them that you tried it and moved on.

But also the truth is as we know, weed isn't the enemy that mdma or meth or that destroyer of worlds [opiates] is. The truth will set them free. It grieves me the lack of attention the public is. If I bring up the Iran/Contra affair and explain that our very own government is/was hauling cocaine into our country and selling it to finance covert opps. Peoples eyes just roll around in their heads and they go back to the tv. I'm not making this up, the most rudimentary search easily proves it, but DWTS is on and ole petro is probably just some conspiracy nut.

Stress kills. Stress causes so many diseases including cancer, small fetuses and mind damage. Weed if put in context is one of the safest substances that can be consumed, after organic broccoli and spinach. Smoking anything is bad, but the weed controversy needs to be kept in perspective.

When put in perspective what would you prefer our kids do smoke a little weed, [key word little] or have sex? Weed or become attached to some religious cult or etc. Be honest, or when they found out you lied, your influence in their lives will be severely diminished for a long time.

I also read a book which included a chapter by the coroner for L.A. county after performing over 4000 autopsies who stated that he had never seen an overdose from mj. This is a catch for me here. Everything in context and moderation. He DID NOT say that people hadn't died stoned, or jumped from buildings, crashed cars and died by other means after imbibing. The truty, the whole truth and mostly the facts.

This is however one thing that gets me. If we eliminated weed from the face of the earth, there are those that think automatically that the world would now be ok. It won't. People are just as F***d-up as before but with no excuse for their behavior and we would have to consider that people are generally just no damn good.

Quote: petroglyph

He's the one protected by the BBC, correct?

A friend gives us their old newspapers, I was just reading Aug. 8th's.

An article in one said, Khieu Samphan 83 and Nuaon Chea 88 got life imprisonment. They were heads of State under Pol Pot and were responsible for killing one quarter of Cambodia's population. Too little too late.

Didn't Rolf travel to other countries doing his dastardly deeds, under diplomatic like cover? IIRC

Fleastiff, fmi, do you live aboard?

I don't think that's Rolf. Rolf was a cartoonist, artist and presenter who has been found guilty of abusing his daughter's best friend while she was growing up. There have been other charges, and some allegations from abroad.

Samphon and Chea are the latest in along line of Kymer Rouge to finally face the piper.

Quote: petroglyph

The study is just another lie, .

LOL!