Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

July 4th, 2019 at 1:54:58 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: petroglyph
Just got a text from my kid, said they watched the parade in Kenai Ak, where we used to work selling sno cones and cotton candy during events. It was so hot they had to go to the car and turn on the ac., it is 84*. lol


And yet ski resorts in the Sierra and
Rockies are still open. Any GW whack
job will tell you the first sign the planet
is burning up is record cold. LOLOL

Skiers Hit Slopes in Short-Shorts on July 4th as California's Endless Winter Endures

https://www.sfgate.com/weather/article/summer-skiing-California-July-4th-Squaw-Mammoth-14071772.php

Snowbird Open on Fourth of July

https://fox13now.com/2019/07/01/snowbird-open-for-4th-of-july/

Colorado’s Arapahoe Basin Ski Area will be open on July 4

7' of snow since March, 2 lifts are running.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 4th, 2019 at 2:18:35 PM permalink
petroglyph
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I'm really glad it's not in the teens outside. We've usually had a dozen or more days over 112. Just past the anniversary of the 127* day here in Havasu. Whatever it's doing it's getting better and I'm liking it.

Even if the sea level rises and people have to move uphill, it's not my fault and I refuse to panic.
Everyone gets thrown from the plane to maintain altitude
September 20th, 2019 at 2:54:41 PM permalink
fleaswatter
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Climate ‘Experts’ Are 0-41 with Their Doomsday Predictions


1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
1970: Ice Age By 2000
1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
1972: New Ice Age By 2070
1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
1974: Another Ice Age?
1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
1980: Peak Oil In 2000
1996: Peak Oil in 2020
2002: Peak Oil in 2010
2006: Super Hurricanes!
2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
1970s: Killer Bees!

Climate ‘Experts’ Are 0-41 with Their Doomsday Predictions

Wrong again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic predictions

Yep - always trust the "experts"

MAGA (don't click here)
sleepy Joe has dementia
September 20th, 2019 at 2:59:18 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: petroglyph


Even if the sea level rises and people have to move uphill, it's not my fault and I refuse to panic.

I'm 60
No panic from me and I'm in Fl
But
I feel bad for the younger generation that will have to deal with the rising sea levels
My house is fine but will definitely closer to the coast for the next owner
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
September 20th, 2019 at 4:07:55 PM permalink
Face
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Quote: fleaswatter

Yep - always trust the "experts"


I remember when zebra mussels were to be the end of the world's largest freshwater fishery. Turns out they did cause untold millions in damage to industry, but did for the natural world what billions in capitol could never do, and that's turn the joke of flammable-water Great Lakes into one of the most beautiful and productive resources in the country. Big oof on that one.

But some your post is otherwise quite simplistic. Not to defend all, because several were complete misses, but it ignores the fact that for a lot of these serious issues, serious efforts were made to correct them. Acid rain didn't "turn out to be no big deal". We passed emissions legislation to erase it and so it went away. Loss of ozone was not "no big deal". We passed CFC legislation to erase it and it went away. 60s, 70s and 80s oil IS gone. We just invented new technologies to enable access to previously unknown sources. 2019 conditions under 1969 technology may very well show us many of these are or were right; look to the advances in GMO and irrigation technologies since then...

Everyone, especially the fiercely pro-environment, should be wary of charlatans and hoodwinks using your emotions for profit. No doubt. But their dishonor does not dishonor the information. That's throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it.
September 22nd, 2019 at 6:15:17 AM permalink
pew
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Quote: terapined
I'm 60
No panic from me and I'm in Fl
But
I feel bad for the younger generation that will have to deal with the rising sea levels
My house is fine but will definitely closer to the coast for the next owner
I've been on the water all my life and the tides come twice a day like clockwork, same high tide, same low tide. Every month it comes up on the road at high tide over several days over and over again but it just doesn't get any higher now than it did fifty years ago. Maybe Florida is simply sinking and that's why the water appears to be rising.
September 22nd, 2019 at 6:19:51 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: pew
I've been on the water all my life and the tides come twice a day like clockwork, same high tide, same low tide. Every month it comes up on the road at high tide over several days over and over again but it just doesn't get any higher now than it did fifty years ago. Maybe Florida is simply sinking and that's why the water appears to be rising.


Considering how many more people live there than a generation ago it probably is sinking. If not for being attached all the Cubans that came to Miami in the 1960s might have tipped it over entirely.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
September 22nd, 2019 at 9:11:59 AM permalink
fleaswatter
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Quote: AZDuffman
Quote: pew
I've been on the water all my life and the tides come twice a day like clockwork, same high tide, same low tide. Every month it comes up on the road at high tide over several days over and over again but it just doesn't get any higher now than it did fifty years ago. Maybe Florida is simply sinking and that's why the water appears to be rising.


Considering how many more people live there than a generation ago it probably is sinking. If not for being attached all the Cubans that came to Miami in the 1960s might have tipped it over entirely.


The "concern" about "tipping over" reminded me of this video of one of the top democrat scholars currently in congress:


sleepy Joe has dementia
September 22nd, 2019 at 9:30:19 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: pew
I've been on the water all my life and the tides come twice a day like clockwork, same high tide, same low tide. Every month it comes up on the road at high tide over several days over and over again but it just doesn't get any higher now than it did fifty years ago. Maybe Florida is simply sinking and that's why the water appears to be rising.

You look outside to determine if there is climate change
I was raised by a geologist. I respect science.
I am certainly no expert
I listen to the scientists
Its like my health. I feel perfectly fine and healthy
yet
I listen to my DR and really trying to change my diet cutting out sugar, soft drinks, junk food and trying to eat more fruits and veggies
I do all this even though I feel perfectly fine because I respect science
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
September 22nd, 2019 at 10:31:02 AM permalink
Gandler
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I drive a Prius, I was one who always made fun of the Prius crowd, I used to like Trucks and muscle cars, until I got one and now spend about 15USD a month on gas (and I drive quite often). That being said I don't support gas tax or inflated gas pricing to encourage fuel efficiency, because those taxes always effect the poor disproportionately.