Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

June 30th, 2019 at 1:10:45 PM permalink
rxwine
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Not sure why the climate change model is so hard to accept. It's perfectly logical.

Yes, climate has been changing all along even without human help. In ideal conditions, the human additive probably creates no noticiable problem. But the human additive plus a complimenting climate condition happens at the same time -- then something different is going to happen.

The problem is not really the lack of fossil fuels, but that you're converting it back way faster back into the environment into a different form. This with the right curve of natural climate, is the potential disaster.

It's about as simple as an intake and exhaust fan. If you need to keep the correct breathable ratio, the exhaust fan needs to be able to reestablish the correct ratio by getting rid of any toxic fumes fast enough while the intake fan brings in fresh air. If you create too much toxic fumes inside the room too fast, you're going to have a system breakdown with the occupants.

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Global warming means hotter air, and hotter air can hold more moisture. This translates into heavier precipitation in the form of more intense rain or snow, simply because more moisture is available to storms. Therefore, less of a regionís precipitation is likely to fall in light storms and more of it in heavy storms


https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/science/cold-snow-climate-change.html
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June 30th, 2019 at 1:24:33 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Yeah, I just don't see how you can on one hand hold up anicdotal evidence of a "mini ice age" and at the same time reject the scientific evidence that confirms it.
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June 30th, 2019 at 1:32:04 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Dalex64
Yeah, I just don't see how you can on one hand hold up anicdotal evidence of a "mini ice age" and at the same time reject the scientific evidence that confirms it.


Nobody cares. It's called weather, it's
never the same in any century. Worrying
about it is about the biggest waste
of time there is.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 1st, 2019 at 4:09:55 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Ahh the last play in the playbook of losing arguments - abandon any former positions and simply declare that "nobody cares"

Well done
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July 1st, 2019 at 4:23:48 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Dalex64
So why don't you think it is warmer now?


Not just warmer. Europe is on fire with record high temps
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July 1st, 2019 at 4:35:56 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Dalex64
simply declare that "nobody cares"


Because it's true. Bring up climate
with most people and their eyes
glaze over. It's weather, it's
extreme sometimes, who cares.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 1st, 2019 at 4:40:30 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Because it's true. Bring up climate
with most people and their eyes
glaze over. It's weather, it's
extreme sometimes, who cares.


Only ones I see who care are those with such easy lives they need something to worry about.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
July 1st, 2019 at 7:16:09 PM permalink
Dalex64
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In other words, someone cares.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
July 1st, 2019 at 9:29:31 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Dalex64
In other words, someone cares.


Yeah, but those who do are the same
people who worry about everything
they can't do a damn thing about.
They just need melodrama to set
them off constantly and make them
feel like they have a real life.

If I had a list of what concerns me,
the weather wouldn't even be on
it. Nor would offending a god
that doesn't exist, or giving one
crap about what people think
about what I do.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 2nd, 2019 at 2:58:33 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Dalex64
In other words, someone cares.


"Someone" cares about almost everything. How serious to take those people is another matter.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it