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October 18th, 2023 at 8:25:41 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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you have to try different ways to ask the question to get the response "no one", otherwise the google machine says "Grant" is the answer. In my view "no one" is correct, as I was influenced by someone who always said to mind what you say about being buried. In a tomb, you are 'entombed' ... In a grave, you are 'buried'

Yet I agree that if it came up on, say, Jeopardy!, you have to accept the answer "Grant"; but even then isn't it "Grant and wife" ?

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no one was buried in grant's tomb?

Grant remains the only president interred in New York City. Today, his memorial is open to visitors year-round and is the frequent site of galas and summer concerts. And the answer to “Who's buried in Grant's tomb?” is: no one. As the sarcophagi are situated above-ground, there is no body “buried” in Grant's tomb
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Why do people ask who is buried in Grant's Tomb?

Sticklers for accuracy have noted that the bodies of Ulysses S. Grant and his wife, Julia Dent Grant, are not actually below ground in the mausoleum. Hence, strictly speaking, no one is buried in Grant's tomb. Perhaps responses of this type may have inspired humorists to create absurdist questions.


Is "Grant's Tomb" just the part of the edifice that is below the ground, or the entire complex, above ground mausoleum and all? The Oxford Dictionary allows for both definitions.
October 18th, 2023 at 8:48:35 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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you have to try different ways to ask the question to get the response "no one", otherwise the google machine says "Grant" is the answer. In my view "no one" is correct, as I was influenced by someone who always said to mind what you say about being buried. In a tomb, you are 'entombed' ... In a grave, you are 'buried'

Yet I agree that if it came up on, say, Jeopardy!, you have to accept the answer "Grant"; but even then isn't it "Grant and wife" ?

>>>

no one was buried in grant's tomb?

Grant remains the only president interred in New York City. Today, his memorial is open to visitors year-round and is the frequent site of galas and summer concerts. And the answer to “Who's buried in Grant's tomb?” is: no one. As the sarcophagi are situated above-ground, there is no body “buried” in Grant's tomb
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Why do people ask who is buried in Grant's Tomb?

Sticklers for accuracy have noted that the bodies of Ulysses S. Grant and his wife, Julia Dent Grant, are not actually below ground in the mausoleum. Hence, strictly speaking, no one is buried in Grant's tomb. Perhaps responses of this type may have inspired humorists to create absurdist questions.


Is "Grant's Tomb" just the part of the edifice that is below the ground, or the entire complex, above ground mausoleum and all? The Oxford Dictionary allows for both definitions.
It would be all of it, but read that again: Grant and wife are above the ground, which is I think always the case with a tomb.
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October 18th, 2023 at 10:18:28 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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you have to try different ways to ask the question to get the response "no one", otherwise the google machine says "Grant" is the answer. In my view "no one" is correct, as I was influenced by someone who always said to mind what you say about being buried. In a tomb, you are 'entombed' ... In a grave, you are 'buried'

Yet I agree that if it came up on, say, Jeopardy!, you have to accept the answer "Grant"; but even then isn't it "Grant and wife" ?

>>>

no one was buried in grant's tomb?

Grant remains the only president interred in New York City. Today, his memorial is open to visitors year-round and is the frequent site of galas and summer concerts. And the answer to “Who's buried in Grant's tomb?” is: no one. As the sarcophagi are situated above-ground, there is no body “buried” in Grant's tomb
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Why do people ask who is buried in Grant's Tomb?

Sticklers for accuracy have noted that the bodies of Ulysses S. Grant and his wife, Julia Dent Grant, are not actually below ground in the mausoleum. Hence, strictly speaking, no one is buried in Grant's tomb. Perhaps responses of this type may have inspired humorists to create absurdist questions.


Is "Grant's Tomb" just the part of the edifice that is below the ground, or the entire complex, above ground mausoleum and all? The Oxford Dictionary allows for both definitions.
It would be all of it, but read that again: Grant and wife are above the ground, which is I think always the case with a tomb.


Oxford-and wikipedia-state that a "tomb" can also be a place of internment above ground, like a a mausoleum. So, no, burial in a tomb is NOT always burial below ground. So if someone asks me "who is buried in Grant's tomb", I would retort, "do you define the "tomb" as being only below ground or does it it also include the above ground mauoleum?".
October 18th, 2023 at 10:49:12 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Oxford-and wikipedia-state that a "tomb" can also be a place of internment above ground, like a a mausoleum. So, no, burial in a tomb is NOT always burial below ground.
you seem to be seeing the opposite of what I wrote. I maintain that burial below ground is very unusual for entombment, something along the lines of "almost never"
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So if someone asks me "who is buried in Grant's tomb", I would retort, "do you define the "tomb" as being only below ground or does it it also include the above ground mauoleum?".
What I have been finding is that Grant and wife are entombed above ground so I have no idea what you are talking about
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October 19th, 2023 at 5:35:06 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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it would be a lot more interesting if she was a successful author, but she was 'self-published' and just an idiot

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Who wrote the book How to Murder Your Husband?

Nancy Crampton Brophy

For today's entry in Stories That Simply Feel Right: The tale of Nancy Crampton Brophy—self-published romance novelist and author of the (in retrospect, ill-advised) essay “How to Murder Your Husband,” who was recently convicted of, yes, murdering her husband
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October 20th, 2023 at 1:47:59 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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I saw that Bob cooked some cod and posted it in the WoV 'what did you eat' thread.

I think the overfishing of the cod disaster was one of the first things that set me on the path to distrusting scientists. The fiasco happened with the full blessing of the regulatory scientists, who went ahead and approved the catch limits as if all their data showed "nothing to see here, move along"

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have atlantic cod recovered?

After many years, New England cod seems to be rebounding from overfishing Atlantic cod, a fish that was foundational to New England's economy, is being caught at historically low levels. But a research scientist says cod is in the early stages of a comeback.
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October 20th, 2023 at 2:04:00 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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In 1986, scientists reviewed calculations and data, after which they determined, to conserve cod fishing, the total allowable catch rate had to be cut in half. However, even with these new statistics brought to light, no changes were made in the allotted yearly catch of cod. With only a limited knowledge of cod biology, scientists predicted that the population of the species would rebound from its low point in 1975.

In the early-1990s, the industry collapsed entirely.


The dissenters for this decision were told that they should 'trust the science', and those that persisted were deemed to be Fish Science Deniers; the media went along with that and squashed all articles and such from the Deniers, loving the connection to 'holocaust deniers' and really rubbing it in every opportunity, and I think by now you have figured out that I made all this up in this paragraph. However, the above quote is not fake and is quoted from the below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_Atlantic_northwest_cod_fishery
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October 20th, 2023 at 6:50:45 AM permalink
rxwine
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In 1986, scientists reviewed calculations and data, after which they determined, to conserve cod fishing, the total allowable catch rate had to be cut in half. However, even with these new statistics brought to light, no changes were made in the allotted yearly catch of cod. With only a limited knowledge of cod biology, scientists predicted that the population of the species would rebound from its low point in 1975.

In the early-1990s, the industry collapsed entirely.


The dissenters for this decision were told that they should 'trust the science', and those that persisted were deemed to be Fish Science Deniers; the media went along with that and squashed all articles and such from the Deniers, loving the connection to 'holocaust deniers' and really rubbing it in every opportunity, and I think by now you have figured out that I made all this up in this paragraph. However, the above quote is not fake and is quoted from the below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_Atlantic_northwest_cod_fishery


I use the wizards quote. It's not whether you win or lose, it's whether you made a good bet. I'd hate to guess how many non-consensus science theories there are that have failed in all different fields. For one guy, who maybe got it right over mainstream science, how many do you think got it wrong? For every Copernicus standing up against the "everything rotating around the Earth", how many other fool alternate theories are there by fools?

Science is almost always slightly wrong. In other words, new information will alter current understanding. So, I guess you can always pick apart something by looking at the self-correction that occurs over time. But overall, it's a bet that pays off in the long run, IMO if not every time.
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October 21st, 2023 at 2:01:26 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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I use the wizards quote. It's not whether you win or lose, it's whether you made a good bet. I'd hate to guess how many non-consensus science theories there are that have failed in all different fields. For one guy, who maybe got it right over mainstream science, how many do you think got it wrong? For every Copernicus standing up against the "everything rotating around the Earth", how many other fool alternate theories are there by fools?

Science is almost always slightly wrong. In other words, new information will alter current understanding. So, I guess you can always pick apart something by looking at the self-correction that occurs over time. But overall, it's a bet that pays off in the long run, IMO if not every time.
You are correct about everything.

Which is why science relies so heavily on dissenting views. You know darn well there were scientists who argued that the cod harvests had to be cut. But the view that prevailed was probably something like "ups and downs occur in fish populations" and that cod numbers would naturally come back. And boy were the scientists who said that getting handshakes and back-slaps all around!! gotta think that had a lot to do with it
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October 21st, 2023 at 2:04:14 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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hobnob word usage history?

In 1761, “hobnob” was used as a noun for a sentiment or phrase (like a “toast”) used in drinking. And in 1763, the OED says, it was first recorded as a verb, meaning “to drink to each other, drink together.”
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etymology

early 19th century (in the sense ‘drink together’): from archaic hob or nob, hob and nob, probably meaning ‘give and take’, used by two people drinking to each other's health, from dialect hab nab ‘have or not have’.
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