ROEvember is Coming

Quote: ams288

Where do Boebert and Gaetz fit in?

I’d say Boebert then Gaetz once MTG is gone. I said ‘weakest link’. Not ‘weakest links’. If I can include the Senate, Tuberville would be on the list.

Quote: SOOPOO

If I can include the Senate, Tuberville would be on the list.

Hy now!! He was a competent football coach so I will give him a pass.

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For the first time in at least 50 years, a judge has intervened to allow an adult woman to terminate her pregnancy.

When Travis County District Judge Maya Guerra Gamble handed down the temporary restraining order Thursday, Kate Cox, 31, of Dallas burst into tears. Cox and her husband desperately wanted to have this baby, but her doctors said continuing the nonviable pregnancy posed a risk to her health and future fertility, according to a historic lawsuit filed Tuesday.

The Texas Office of the Attorney General, which challenged Cox’s claims at Thursday’s hearing, may try to ask a higher court to intervene.

“The idea that Ms. Cox wants desperately to be a parent, and this law might actually cause her to lose that ability is shocking and would be a genuine miscarriage of justice,” Gamble said.

At 20 weeks pregnant, Cox learned her fetus had full trisomy 18, a chromosomal abnormality that is almost always fatal before birth or soon after. Before the overturn of Roe v. Wade, Texas law allowed doctors to terminate pregnancies due to lethal fetal anomalies at any point during the pregnancy. But now, Cox’s doctors said their hands were tied by Texas’ abortion laws, which prohibit abortion except to save the life of the pregnant patient.

Quote: rxwine

Texas AG threatening all three hospitals where the doctor has admitting privileges.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/texas-threatens-doctors-judge-emergency-abortion-1234920048/

Expect to see a lot of ads about this next fall! Huge donation to Dem politicians.

Quote: ams288

Texas AG threatening all three hospitals where the doctor has admitting privileges.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/texas-threatens-doctors-judge-emergency-abortion-1234920048/

Expect to see a lot of ads about this next fall! Huge donation to Dem politicians.

I think Texas is doing a great job turning a traditional GOP stronghold purple with crazy policies. Texas went in 20 years from an insane GOP lead to a couple point GOP lead. Now, is this all due to polices? Probably not, the expansion of many traditionally Californian companies into Texas attracts a different crowd than historically would move there by choice. But, abortion certainly a major factor. In another 20 years I would be shocked if Texas is red at all.

If Texas is going to prosecute hospitals who provide care to a woman who needs an abortion, and even has Court Approval to get one (which is an insane statement.) There is no way decent people are going to be loyal to such an archaic system.

I suspect Texas and Florida are going to have similar problems in the next 20 years, both want to attract a lot of mainstream companies (and are succeeding mostly for tax and financial reasons.) And, many people are willing to try it out because of their climate. They are going to attract a lot of people who used to be attracted to San Francisco, and then they will act shocked as there is massive pushback to archaic legislation.

I think Roe being overturned is terrible. However, in the long term I think it will be excellent for the Democrats. Because now the GOP has to actually do what they have been threatening to do since the 70s and cannot hide behind a SCOTUS ruling blocking them (and people will see that they really do believe that, and that is the major defining factor of their party.)

I do not know how people still think this is politically beneficial to the GOP even if you think abortion is an inherent sin or whatever.

If SCOTUS overturns equal marriage and discrimination protection (not off the table yet.) This will be terrible for rights, but great for political progress. The GOP will be cancelled overnight in every Red State that matters (and, lets be honest, there are only a few consistently red states that actually matter as far as population levels....)

The core anti-abortion movement would sacrifice the Republican party completely to accomplish their goal if that was necessary. I believe that's a fairly small subset of the right. They use practically any tactic. Most aren't going to go as far as Eric Rudolf. Fortunately. But practically anything else goes if it works.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/08/us/texas-abortion-ruling-attorney-general-petition/index.html

So to comment again on the ongoing Texas case, now the Texas Supreme Court overturned the lower Court, and blocked the abortion order she received. This is madness.....

This is so crazy... This reminds me the Taliban Councils where they just randomly make declarations about women based on how they randomly feel/interpret. I just do not see this as a winning strategy. How long until people who "love medical freedom" realize that their party is run by a certain religious faction?

Quote: Gandler

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/08/us/texas-abortion-ruling-attorney-general-petition/index.html

So to comment again on the ongoing Texas case, now the Texas Supreme Court overturned the lower Court, and blocked the abortion order she received. This is madness.....

This is so crazy... This reminds me the Taliban Councils where they just randomly make declarations about women based on how they randomly feel/interpret. I just do not see this as a winning strategy. How long until people who "love medical freedom" realize that their party is run by a certain religious faction?

Let me splain it to you. In really simple terms. Are you in favor of letting a woman kill her newborn child? I mean, it’s her child, she is the parent, shouldn’t it be her right to do so? The anti abortion people believe the embryo/fetus is an alive human being.

Obviously you ( and the majority of people) don’t feel that way. You want to use a catch phrase ‘medical freedom’. The anti abortion person would ask where is the ‘medical freedom’ for the unborn human?

It’s really simple. You don’t believe a fetus has any rights. That only the mother of the fetus has rights. The pro-lifers believe the fetus has rights as an individual separate from the rights of the carrying woman.

Quote: SOOPOO

Let me splain it to you. In really simple terms. Are you in favor of letting a woman kill her newborn child? I mean, it’s her child, she is the parent, shouldn’t it be her right to do so? The anti abortion people believe the embryo/fetus is an alive human being.

Obviously you ( and the majority of people) don’t feel that way. You want to use a catch phrase ‘medical freedom’. The anti abortion person would ask where is the ‘medical freedom’ for the unborn human?

It’s really simple. You don’t believe a fetus has any rights. That only the mother of the fetus has rights. The pro-lifers believe the fetus has rights as an individual separate from the rights of the carrying woman.

That's an easy one. In order to be a citizen, and have the Constitutional protections granted to citizens, you must first be born. They don't assign SSN's to fetuses.

Quote: SOOPOO

Let me splain it to you. In really simple terms. Are you in favor of letting a woman kill her newborn child? I mean, it’s her child, she is the parent, shouldn’t it be her right to do so? The anti abortion people believe the embryo/fetus is an alive human being.

Obviously you ( and the majority of people) don’t feel that way. You want to use a catch phrase ‘medical freedom’. The anti abortion person would ask where is the ‘medical freedom’ for the unborn human?

It’s really simple. You don’t believe a fetus has any rights. That only the mother of the fetus has rights. The pro-lifers believe the fetus has rights as an individual separate from the rights of the carrying woman.

The pro-lifers want women to be nothing more than broodmares.