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I'm pretty sure abortion can't be regulated because the spiritual liability mostly resides with the parents' volition.

Then at some point in the future, the death event is balanced.

I would try to never be associated with the death side because of spiritual liability.


So doctors are in a tough spot, even if they think they're doing the correct thing.

Quote: DoubleGold

I'm pretty sure abortion can't be regulated because the spiritual liability mostly resides with the parent's volition.

Then at some point in the future, the death event is balanced.

I would never be associated with the death side because of spiritual liability.


So doctors are in a tough spot, even if they think they're doing the correct thing.

I’m not exactly sure what you are saying, but I always felt Abortion was an informed consent decision that should be solely made by the mother. Activists, doctors, politicians can give advice, but the final decision should solely be the mother’s.

I still haven’t internally decided on ‘timing’. Like first trimester, second trimester, theoretical viability outside the womb, etc…

So to me the ‘right thing’ was if the mother gave informed consent, and my hospital was allowing it, I’d participate if scheduled to.

I'm fine with some of the things anti-abortion activists do...if they were done properly. You want to educate people about what goes on. Fine. Sponsor education in schools where you show a fetus in an ultrasound for instance. Stick to the facts. Fine. Use an ultrasound to delay, influence, put a barrier. financial deterrent hoping your prospective target can be delayed or scared or whatever and pretend that it was necessary?

Not fine.

Quote: rxwine

I'm fine with some of the things anti-abortion activists do...if they were done properly. You want to educate people about what goes on. Fine. Sponsor education in schools where you show a fetus in an ultrasound for instance. Stick to the facts. Fine. Use an ultrasound to delay, influence, put a barrier. financial deterrent hoping your prospective target can be delayed or scared or whatever and pretend that it was necessary?

Not fine.

The problem is that most anti-abortion activists support the fire bombings of clinics.
https://www.justice.gov/crt/recent-cases-violence-against-reproductive-health-care-providers

And, this is just violence in the U.S. if you at how certain countries in the Middle East treats people trying to get abortions, it is overwhelming levels of violence (and in some areas we are on the path towards that level of society.)

We had a similar case in Florida. At 23 weeks she had an ultrasound and there were no kidneys. Potter's Syndrome. Kid will die at birth. She and her husband didn't have the means to travel to where abortion would have been legal.

If a woman wants to carry that kid to birth, even though it's going to die, which it did, she should have that choice. And knowing it is going to die she should also have the preference to have an abortion if she doesn't want to walk around knowing the inevitable is going to happen months later. And of course, all the people who like to make all those happy comments on when is she going to have the baby that she'll have to listen to as she gets very visibly pregnant. "Is it a boy or girl?" It's going to be dead. What fun for her?

We have politicians making decisions, that can't possibly cover all possible situations. Which is why it shouldn't be made by them.

Her name is Deborah Dorbert. Her kid was born on March 3rd and died shortly afterward.

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I’m not exactly sure what you are saying, but I always felt Abortion was an informed consent decision that should be solely made by the mother. Activists, doctors, politicians can give advice, but the final decision should solely be the mother’s.

I still haven’t internally decided on ‘timing’. Like first trimester, second trimester, theoretical viability outside the womb, etc…

So to me the ‘right thing’ was if the mother gave informed consent, and my hospital was allowing it, I’d participate if scheduled to.

My understanding is when fertilization produces a human zygote (genetically yoked), which is less than three weeks from the last menstruation and less than a week from fertilization.

If I am a fentanyl drug pusher and you chose to take my supply and then become deceased, am I partially liable for your death?

I don't think a person's choice can remove all other liability.

Abortion pill ruling will come from the Supreme Court in July.

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Erin Hawley, an attorney with the conservative Alliance Defending Freedom, which is representing the abortion pill challengers, urged the justices to agree with the lower-court decisions restricting access to the drug when they eventually decide the case.

Defending Freedom? Yeah, right.

Quote: rxwine

Abortion pill ruling will come from the Supreme Court in July.



Defending Freedom? Yeah, right.

I actually think they learned a lesson and won’t restrict access. Especially in an election year.

They can’t be that dumb, can they?

(Alito and Thomas will obviously vote to ban it - because those two ARE that dumb)

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I actually think they learned a lesson and won’t restrict access. Especially in an election year.

They can’t be that dumb, can they?

(Alito and Thomas will obviously vote to ban it - because those two ARE that dumb)

Barrett is too, bur she's smart enough not to be too outspoken about it,