Presidential Election 2020 Biden vs. Trump

Quote: Gandler

Many did, many lawsuits were awarded

Some, not many. Means nothing without
hearing both sides. My wife is the nicest
most honest person you'll ever meet and
even she got sued 3 times when she had
he business. Unless you know every detail
of every lawsuit Trump was involved in,
don't even mention them.

Quote: kenarman

Seems like you don't like bankruptcy and think it is a moral issue. After the recession of 2008 bankruptcies peaked in 2010 at 1.6 million, by your definition immoral people.

I wonder how many bankruptcies we will have because of the Covid shutdowns that you support. Probably be at least 2 million immoral people. "Have they no prisons, have they no poor houses" Ebenezer Scrooge.

I don't think he mentioned bankruptcy. I know I did not in recent posts, except once to explain why he got out of paying all of his lawsuits and collections.

Nobody thinks bankruptcy is automatically immoral. Raking up debt with the intention of going into bankruptcy is (and also illegal).... You can argue maybe he thought he would be able to pay off 900 million at 14% and had plans to pay all of his contractors and employees.....

Trump does not have a good payment history, you can grovel over him all you want, his credit score and payment history are not debatable..... Also, his legal judgments, lawsuits, and liens, all public records. Not a conspiracy theory.

Working for Trump is a great deal if you want to wait decades to get paid a fraction of the invoice (if you are lucky)....

Quote: Evenbob

Some, not many. Means nothing without
hearing both sides. My wife is the nicest
most honest person you'll ever meet and
even she got sued 3 times when she had
he business. Unless you know every detail
of every lawsuit Trump was involved in,
don't even mention them.

But just like most people his age, he knows everything. 😂😂

Quote: Evenbob

Some, not many. Means nothing without
hearing both sides. My wife is the nicest
most honest person you'll ever meet and
even she got sued 3 times when she had
he business. Unless you know every detail
of every lawsuit Trump was involved in,
don't even mention them.

Did you wife lose?

Many means many. We don't have to hear both sides, that is the role of the judge and/or jury, we have to respect their decisions..... I am not talking about lawsuits for sexual harrasment (totally different topic), just the ones for nonpayment......

And, 200+ mechanic liens is a lot of liens.
Last page you didn't even think there was a single lien on the property, so I don't think you are knowledgeable enough to tell others not to mention them....

Quote: Gandler

Many means many. We don't have to hear both sides,.

Sure you do, are you kidding? My wife
was sued 3 times in a business that made
her $40K a year. Trump was involved in
projects that involved billions, suing
him was a legal sport. As it is for all
billionaires.

Quote: Evenbob

Sure you do, are you kidding? My wife
was sued 3 times in a business that made
her $40K a year. Trump was involved in
projects that involved billions, suing
him was a legal sport. As it is for all
billionaires.

You snipped out the part where I said that is the role of the judge or jury.
We only have to look at the ruling....

If your wife was sued 3 times and the ruling was in her favor it means nothing. If your wife was sued 3 times and lost, she was doing something wrong (or refused to show up to court)..... The results are what matter.

Bottom line is Trump owed a lot of people money, lots of invoices, and lawsuits that never got paid. And, lots of liens on his property (200+ is a lot for anyone..... again its 200+ not zero) Also, his credit is terrible... He does not have a good payment history, I am not sure how this is still debabtle....

Quote: Evenbob

Quote: Gandler

Many means many. We don't have to hear both sides,.

WTF?!

Wanna bet he doesn't feel that way about Creepy Joe and all of the numerous allegations against him?? 🙄

Quote: Evenbob

Sure you do, are you kidding? My wife
was sued 3 times in a business that made
her $40K a year. Trump was involved in
projects that involved billions, suing
him was a legal sport. As it is for all
billionaires.

Comparing Trump to other similar billionaires in the same business was already done years ago, and Trump was already found to be the loser.

By that, I mean “lots of lawsuits” by comparison

Quote: Gandler

The fact is Trump is just a bad person, even if you agree with his policies 100%, I can't see how any sane person can defend his character....

And that is the problem. We are given a choice between Trump and a party that calls rioting a summer party. That has weakened law enforcement at the cost of hundreds, probably thousands of additional deaths of minorities. (see homicide stats NYC, Chicago, etc...) That does not understand that calling something 'stimulus' at a cost of a few more trillion dollars does not mean it makes any sense. That eliminated an entire class of people (white males) from VP consideration for the sole reason they were white males. That wants to give free healthcare, free college, free phones, free money (UBI), free money (reparations), free money (more federal UI on top of state UI). That allowed "autonomous zones" to exist and turned down federal help. That wants essentially open borders and wants to reward those that entered illegally with citizenship. That allows anti-semites like Omar a platform. That .... oh... my typing finger hurts.....

So i get to pick between a bad person and the Democrats. What did I do to deserve that?

Quote: Gandler

Working for Trump is a great deal if you want to wait decades to get paid a fraction of the invoice (if you are lucky)....

Really? So ALL these businesses TODAY that are subcontracting from Trump International are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts? They are not as savvy as Gandler in the ways of big business? Somehow none of them have heard all these allegations that Trump never pays, but YOU have?

I have a cousin who has worked for Trump for 2+ decades. Trump has been very good to him and his family. You want to mention people that Trump has screwed? I'll mention one that he hasn't.