Presidential Election 2020 Biden vs. Trump

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August 23rd, 2020 at 12:10:15 PM permalink
aceofspades
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 83
Posts: 2019
Quote: rxwine
I'll happily go by Trump's statements about Putin, his own daughter, grabbing women by the crotch, statements made under oath against him, etc., legal cases made against him. There will be more than enough.


You new moving the goalposts - you said everything I listed that Biden did, Trump did 10x more -- so, where is Trump plagiarizing 10x more than Biden? Let's start with that one
August 23rd, 2020 at 12:13:46 PM permalink
Shrek
Member since: Aug 13, 2019
Threads: 7
Posts: 1689
Quote: Evenbob
You must have actual things
you'll do, like Clinton had.

I think he's too young to remember Clinton though.
August 23rd, 2020 at 12:27:17 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 146
Posts: 25131
Quote: Shrek
I think he's too young to remember Clinton though.


Biden's whole platform is he'll
make things 'better', he'll lead
us out of the 'darkness' and into
the 'light'. He has nothing but
platitudes and cliche's and those
never mean anything to anybody.
You think Obama was an empty
suit, Biden isn't even wearing a
suit. He's wearing rest home pajama's.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 23rd, 2020 at 12:29:35 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 193
Posts: 19835
Quote: aceofspades
You new moving the goalposts - you said everything I listed that Biden did, Trump did 10x more -- so, where is Trump plagiarizing 10x more than Biden? Let's start with that one


The article is from 2016, so hard to imagine how much more there is.


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Trump’s allegedly personal investing secrets. A New York Times investigation found that at least 20 pages of the Trump Institute textbooks were lifted in near-entirety from a book in the “Real Estate Mastery System,” a 1995 series completely unaffiliated with Trump


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Trump’s official campaign site has hosted a number of local news articles reproduced without attribution. On its Idaho webpage, the campaign copied and pasted local radio station KBSX’s 2012 article on election law, removing the author’s name and renaming the story “REQUIREMENTS TO VOTE FOR TRUMP.”


3, 4, 5, 6.
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The Trump campaign’s Arkansas, Ohio, Colorado, and Michigan websites also appeared to have lifted articles on voter registration directly from local news outlets.


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In March 2016, Trump published an op-ed in the Pacific News Daily, a Guam newspaper. But the text of the article appeared to borrow heavily from an op-ed Trump’s one-time rival Ben Carson had published in February


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In April, the Trump campaign began rolling out a new slogan: America First. “America First will be the major and overriding theme of my administration,” Trump announced in a foreign policy speech. Unfortunately, “America First” was already claimed in the 1940s, by an American nationalist movement, which—among anti-semitic and isolationist campaigns—encouraged the country to do business with Hitler.


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Trump filed to trademark the now-infamous campaign slogan “Make America Great Again.” But “Make America Great Again” was a famous slogan in Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign, “employed prominently in everything from buttons to posters to his acceptance speech Trump still takes full credit for the slogan, in March 2015 claiming that “the line of ‘Make America great again,’ the phrase, that was mine. I came up with i


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Melania Trump’s RNC speech appears lifted from one of Michelle Obama’s.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/everything-donald-trump-has-plagiarized?ref=scroll


There's apparently a whole host of uncredited Twitter plagiarism, but I won't bother to go through all that crap.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
August 23rd, 2020 at 12:33:27 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 27
Posts: 4481
Quote: Evenbob
And so far in history that has
never ever EVER been a winning
platform. Nobody has ever beat
an incumbent with that strategy.
You must have actual things
you'll do, like Clinton had. Voters
aren't stupid, for the most part.


I was going to point out Trump's vague proposals when running saying that he'll figure it out when he wins and he is very smart....

But, I went to his campaign website to show a comparison to Biden's site:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com


https://vote.donaldjtrump.com/?utm_source=organic_popup&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=20200817__popup_request-an-absentee-ballot_na_djt&utm_content=djt_home


The first thing that pops up ( even before asking for money), is a link to his page to register for mail in ballots to vote for Trump.... I literally laughed to myself at the hypocrisy. Mail in ballots are bad, unless you sign up through Trump's site lol.....
August 23rd, 2020 at 12:35:13 PM permalink
Tripdufan
Member since: Oct 3, 2019
Threads: 0
Posts: 716
Quote: aceofspades
What did I state about Biden that did not have verifiable proof? Sniffing girls and women, unmasking Flynn, 1988 Presidential race ending due to his plagiarism...


Flynn's name wasn't unmasked because Flynn's name wasn't masked. This is actually old news.

And this pedophile thing with Biden makes you people look sick AF. Joe Biden is not a pedophile. Geezus. You'd think this site was QAnon.
August 23rd, 2020 at 2:08:38 PM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 135
Posts: 19005
Quote: Gandler
Well that is hard to do, because I am more so supporting "voiting against Trump" than being in love with Joe Biden....


So you are backing up my point 100%.

Quote:
However, as a Vice President he was great, and is often regarded near the top of the list as one of the best VPs in history. So I am sure he will be fine as President. He knows the people and systems in place to operate steady, and will not feel the need to be outlandish to get attention...


What on earth did he do to be a good VP? The job is just waiting around for POTUS to die and breaking the occasional tie in the Senate.
The President is a fink.
August 23rd, 2020 at 2:27:03 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 27
Posts: 4481
Quote: AZDuffman
So you are backing up my point 100%.



What on earth did he do to be a good VP? The job is just waiting around for POTUS to die and breaking the occasional tie in the Senate.


Yes.

If I view Trump as dangerous why is simply voting against Trump illogical?


As for him being a good VP, there are amble VP lists online (many from well before this election), he almost always is in the top 10, if not top 5.....
August 23rd, 2020 at 2:46:51 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 146
Posts: 25131
Quote: Gandler
I was going to point out Trump's vague proposals when running .


Are you fricking KIDDING??? Trump was
totally up front with what he was going
to do.

1. ‘Build a wall’
2 Get rid of NAFTA
3 Impose tariffs on goods made in China and Mexico
4 Renegotiate or withdraw from the North American Free Trade Agreement and Trans-Pacific Partnership
5 Renegotiate the Iran deal
6 Cut Taxes
7 Get rid of ISIS

These are just a few of the 75
things he proposed to do.
Vague? What the hell are you
talking about. Why do you think
we elected him???
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 23rd, 2020 at 2:54:36 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 27
Posts: 4481
Quote: Evenbob
Are you fricking KIDDING??? Trump was
totally up front with what he was going
to do.

1. ‘Build a wall’
2 Get rid of NAFTA
3 Impose tariffs on goods made in China and Mexico
4 Renegotiate or withdraw from the North American Free Trade Agreement and Trans-Pacific Partnership
5 Renegotiate the Iran deal
6 Cut Taxes
7 Get rid of ISIS

These are just a few of the 75
things he proposed to do.
Vague? What the hell are you
talking about. Why do you think
we elected him???



Those are all soundbites.

Compare his campaign not to Democrats, but to Republican opponents in the primary. Thousands of pages of detailed policies on every issue on their sites. Trump, a bunch of catchy slogans....


I even invite you to read his campaign site now after being president for 3+ years.
https://www.promiseskept.com

If the popups for mail in voting and money requests everytime you click a link dont drive you bonkers, you will see his policy pages are sparse.... There are some nutbag third party canidates with more policy pages.....