Presidential Election 2020 Biden vs. Trump

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June 15th, 2020 at 12:40:42 PM permalink
RonC
Member since: Nov 7, 2012
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There is a difference between "questioning the outcome of elections" and "refusal to leave office."

One is your position on the information that you have and can be wrong, but not illegal.

Occupying office ends at a certain time and there is nothing that you can do to stop it from ending. Anything attempted would quickly be struck down and even something as strong as ordering someone to keep them from coming to kick you out would fall be the wayside once the term as ended. Every office may not be as clearly defined as the Federal ones, but I have no concern about anyone trying to stay beyond their term.

Again, trying to define the "Bogeyman" and not really a serious issue.
June 15th, 2020 at 12:42:51 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote:
Trump on the number of coronavirus cases, per pool: “If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any.”


If Biden said something this insanely stupid, it’d be the top story for a couple days. This won’t even make the evening news tonight. That’s how low the bar is for Donny.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
June 15th, 2020 at 12:52:15 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: RonC
, but I have no concern about anyone trying to stay beyond their term.


I think it would require already being in a high state of political and civil arrest. (than we are in now) for it to be a real possibility. I don't think any President could pull it off in normal times at all.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
June 15th, 2020 at 3:49:08 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: RonC
There is a difference between "questioning the outcome of elections" and "refusal to leave office."

One is your position on the information that you have and can be wrong, but not illegal.

Occupying office ends at a certain time and there is nothing that you can do to stop it from ending. Anything attempted would quickly be struck down and even something as strong as ordering someone to keep them from coming to kick you out would fall be the wayside once the term as ended. Every office may not be as clearly defined as the Federal ones, but I have no concern about anyone trying to stay beyond their term.

Again, trying to define the "Bogeyman" and not really a serious issue.

This is a man that lies and said he actually won the popular vote in 2016. Look it up. Scary.
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June 15th, 2020 at 4:25:13 PM permalink
RonC
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Quote: terapined
This is a man that lies and said he actually won the popular vote in 2016. Look it up. Scary.


Which is not really relevant to this particular subject the Democrats are trying to push...

Again, in case you missed it, he (or anyone) can refuse to accept losing the election.

No one, in a Federal elected position and not re-elected to the same office, is whatever they where before the time their office expires at any time after it expires.

If he loses, and says that he didn't, the charade would end at noon on the day his term ends. He would be rather quickly be removed and that would be the end of that. Even if he occupied the White House and had to be blasted out, he would no longer be President.

The dems need to stoop to this to beat him?
June 15th, 2020 at 4:31:25 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: RonC
The dems need to stoop to this to beat him?


How the eff does this have anything to do with beating him?

They’re just pointing out that he’s a lawless president. A big whiny baby with the most fragile ego imaginable. If he does lose, he will almost certainly dispute the results. He won’t leave without a fight, and a big chunk of his more insane supporters will be right there with him.
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June 15th, 2020 at 7:44:11 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 25010
Over 1 million have signed up for Trump's
Tulsa rally already. If covid is such a
threat why haven't the 10's of
thousands who were rioting almost
3 weeks ago filled up hospitals and
morgues around the country. What
a joke.

How come all these people are still
walking around.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 15th, 2020 at 11:13:06 PM permalink
Pacomartin
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Evenbob
How come all these people are still walking around.


The death rate in the US is 723 per 100,000 or less than 1% of the population.
The death rate in NYC from COVID-19 is ~205 per 100,000 and it is probably the hardest hit city in the entire world.

You can't see percentages that small from eyeballing crowds.
June 15th, 2020 at 11:48:50 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Pacomartin

You can't see percentages that small from eyeballing crowds.


I was obviously being ironic and facetious

fa·ce·tious
/fəˈsēSHəs/
treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor; flippant.

The media thought ti was just
hunky dory for thousands to
protest and riot, but every
person who attends a Trump
rally is signing their covid
death warrant. They wonder
why nobody believes a word
they say anymore.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 16th, 2020 at 1:40:41 AM permalink
RonC
Member since: Nov 7, 2012
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Posts: 2452
Quote: ams288
How the eff does this have anything to do with beating him?

They’re just pointing out that he’s a lawless president. A big whiny baby with the most fragile ego imaginable. If he does lose, he will almost certainly dispute the results. He won’t leave without a fight, and a big chunk of his more insane supporters will be right there with him.


It is a talking point the left is using quite often these days; what would make anyone think that there is any purpose to it other than to try to scare voters?

If it wasn't for that purpose, why bring it up? If the candidate the Dems have is so good and he is so bad, all they have to do is point out the differences and not try to build fear.

The Dems have a weak candidate and this is being trotted out not because "it could happen" (and it can't/won't) but because they think it is a silly idea they can plant in the minds of people and get it to stick. It just might work with their insane followers, like the ones who want to de-fund the police.