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| March 30th, 2020 at 5:57:30 PM permalink | |
| Tanko Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 0 Posts: 1986 | NYC sees a coronavirus death every 2.9 minutes in a six hour stretch. Dr. Zelenko. serves the tight knit Hasidic community in Kiryas Joel, NY, and claims 59% of his patients have tested positive for Covid-19. He says 200 million will get the disease. 40-50% of those who are intubated will die. Survivors who were intubated will be scarred for life. He claims success prescribing hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc sulphate, with the objective of keeping the viral load down to give the immune system time to overcome it. He claims none of his patients has died or been intubated. |
| March 30th, 2020 at 6:05:52 PM permalink | |
| reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 |
I'm not sure what your source was for 180,000 hospitalizations, so I will use the CDC's numbers: 2017-2018: 44.8 million Americans got sick 2017-2018: 808,100 hospitalizations 2018-2019: 35.5 million Americans got sick 2018-2019: 490,600 hospitalizations So the rate of hospitalization for the seasonal flu was 1.80% for 2017-18 flu season and 1.38% for the 2018-19 flu season. ******** How does compare to coronavirus? Louisiana confirmed cases: 3,540 Louisiana hospitalizations: 1,127 Louisiana rate of hospitalization:31% New York State confirmed cases: 66,500 New York State hospitalizations: 9,517 NY rate of hospitalization: 14% California confirmed cases: 7,146 California hospitalizations: 1,432 California rate of hospitalization:20% |
| March 30th, 2020 at 6:22:59 PM permalink | |
| gamerfreak Member since: Feb 19, 2018 Threads: 4 Posts: 527 |
Do they even test for the seasonal flu? I may be wrong but I have a feeling your first set of numbers are extrapolated while the second set are actual tests. |
| March 30th, 2020 at 6:34:36 PM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4175 | Just got off my conference call with colleagues from around New York State. One downstater just finished his 24 hour in hospital shift. He said same time last year he would have intubated on average of 2 patients. Yesterday he intubated 14. Different colleague describes using a single use mask for an entire week. Third colleague describes new ICU units in her hospital, now being run by anesthesiologists. I'm guessing non critical care nurses are now doing critical care nursing. Sounds bleak. These were large departments, but one had 3 anesthesiologists out with COVID, the other 2 out. My sister and her husband were tested today. Slow results test in New Jersey. Sounds like they will both be positive. But luckily neither is very sick. |
| March 30th, 2020 at 6:36:29 PM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4175 |
I receive data from New York State weekly on positive flu tests, hospitalizations, deaths. I never pay attention. |
| March 30th, 2020 at 7:03:03 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 | I also note the post started by the Wizard that brought us this thread which was well before March 9, in fact it was February 4th
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| March 30th, 2020 at 11:12:36 PM permalink | |
| reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 |
44.8 million is CDC's estimate derived from a range: a minimum of 39,322,959 illnesses and a maximum of 57,928,172 illnesses. The agency doesn't know the precise number. But the CDC's epidemiologists are 95% certain that the precise number falls within that range. (95% confidence interval) |
| March 31st, 2020 at 5:45:56 AM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4175 |
They are really just guessing. This virus might not be unprecedented, but our response as a nation is. How effective 'social distancing' is, how many people really did it, etc... I mean, when China did it's lockdown you think people could still drive to Burger King to pick up dinner, stop at the dry cleaners on the way to the liquor store? You think they still had giant spring break orgies? As the manufacturers of most of the world's supply, you think they were short on PPE for their doctors? |
| March 31st, 2020 at 5:54:06 AM permalink | |
| ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12532 | I feel like more people would be staying at home if they saw this image of how the test for the virus is done:  “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
| March 31st, 2020 at 6:14:18 AM permalink | |
| RonC Member since: Nov 7, 2012 Threads: 8 Posts: 2510 |
We really have no idea what the scope of the infection is in China. They are lying to us and every time someone tries to tell the truth, they get disappeared. China is a huge country, so some areas may have done better at controlling it than others but I don't believe ANY of their figures at this point. There is reporting out there supporting that but you don't see it on the news. Our news is focused on "red turns to green"...the old wrestling adage that blood being drawn in a match helps bring in viewers/customers. There are great stories out there and there are ways to report the news with all the negatives but also how, as a country, we can get through this thing with better results than expected. The President was wrong in saying that 38 million people lived in Seoul but there are 25 million in the metropolitan area (https://populationstat.com/south-korea/seoul). Prove that he was wrong, and get back to preaching the gospel of social distancing, getting PPE to providers, etc. If we went to 20/10 coverage (twenty minutes of telling everyone how horrid Trump is, ten of how to get through this thing), we would all be better off. |