A vocation in a vocation
January 29th, 2018 at 5:06:02 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
I've heard about those people. They're wishy one day and washy the next. In between they're just not sure of anything.. Taking a stand can be terrifying for some people.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 29th, 2018 at 5:16:03 PM permalink | |
beachbumbabs Member since: Sep 3, 2013 Threads: 6 Posts: 1600 |
Although I would be one of "those people", I don't accept the premise of fear. It's simple uncertainty. Logically, we have no concrete evidence of God. We both rejected organized religion decades ago as manipulative, greedy, myth-filled organizations. But God as a concept is not ruled out for either of us. There are arguments to be made for Intelligent Design, and aspects that cannot otherwise be explained in the Universe. It is laughable arrogance to assume humans are the most intelligent, developed, oldest manifestation of "life", and there is no higher form. We could easily be some vastly more developed being's ant farm. We would be "God" to our world's ants if they had the consciousness to recognize our existence. All Hail K! (Name that movie) Never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world; it's the only thing ever has |
January 29th, 2018 at 5:28:57 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
So do you slap supernatural explanations on everything science can't explain? If not, why not. I'm perfectly happy to say I don't know the answer to something and wait patiently for science to come up wiyh it. I have no need to blame it all on a god, when gods existence itself cannot be proven. I don't get where your washy-wishy stance comes from. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 29th, 2018 at 5:47:05 PM permalink | |
beachbumbabs Member since: Sep 3, 2013 Threads: 6 Posts: 1600 |
I'm open to more than one possible explanation. You take a position, no matter how extreme, and stick with it like a dog with a bone. Different personalities? Different approaches to life? I'm a Libra and you're a ______? IDK. Never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world; it's the only thing ever has |
January 29th, 2018 at 5:47:10 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Well I guess this thread is derailed for a bit so I'll join in by pointing out your inconsistency Bob. You seem to be saying that if science can't explain it you will wait for an answer. That is very different than an atheist position which would be the absolute certainty that there is no God. I too recognize the wishy-washyness of the agnostic position but at least it is logically consistent. The atheist position suffers from a claim of certainty that is not supported by anything. Ironically, this is exactly what you charge my position of being a theist as. I guess we are in the same boat, except my boat is much bigger and is laden down with lots of things, including science and other evidence, that at least support my position. We are all at sea and the agnostic is standing on the shore not sure which boat to get into. There is the atheist's small empty rowboat with no lights and the theist's large cruiser with lights, a compass, maps, and lots of storage for supplies - but we are both on an adventure into the big sea. When you eventually tip over we will be there to rescue you, but it seems you would rather drown. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
January 29th, 2018 at 5:49:54 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
God is not an explanation for anything. You can't take one unknown and explain another unknown with it. But that's what Xtions do with so many things, no wonder they're so confused all the time. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 29th, 2018 at 5:57:55 PM permalink | |
beachbumbabs Member since: Sep 3, 2013 Threads: 6 Posts: 1600 |
You're right, FrG. My apologies for doing it. Never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world; it's the only thing ever has |
January 29th, 2018 at 6:03:58 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
And you still, after all this time, have no idea what the atheist 'position' is. You don't understand because you think there is a 'position' involved. Let's use this analogy. I don't collect stamps. What's my position on collecting stamps? I don't have one, I don't collect them. Why would I have a 'position' on something I'm not involved in. There is no god. What's my position on god? I have none, there is no god to have a position on. There is no such thing as outer space alien abductions. What's my position on that? How can I have a position on something that doesn't exist. Get it? As far as your life being soooooo superior to mine because you're a believer, how would you know. You don't even understand atheism. I have the same life you have, only I see it for real and you see yours thru a self imposed prism that colors everything just right for your belief system. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 29th, 2018 at 6:13:26 PM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Many don't. |
January 29th, 2018 at 6:43:05 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
You know why that is, why so many men don't talk about the war they were in? Because they were either scared shitless or bored to death. Neither are subjects that lend well to conversation. Real men don't talk about being scared, and talking about being bored is as boring as you can get. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |