Simple question?

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God created the universe and its laws so that such things as the earth and sun could form.

That's not what you said a post ago.

Quote: Nareed

Why are Christians so fearful of sex?

That's what this whole discussion boils down
to. All Christians are fearful of sex, but the
Catholics are terrified of it. To the point that
their priests are basically functional eunuchs
who are forbidden to engage in any sexual
activity whatsoever on promise it's a mortal
sin that will send them to hell. Yet if you're
a Catholic, this is the person you turn to for
sound sexual advice. Does this make sense to
anybody inside the Church or out?

If I wanted gardening advice, would I ask my
mechanic? Would I go to the dry cleaner for
hair care tips? Why trust what an all male non
sexually active clergy, who've been that way
for a thousand years, to know anything helpful
about how to manage a sexual relationship.

It's nothing short of insanity. Is it any wonder
that Catholics are the most sexually confused
of all the Christian sects? Their young girls are
the most promiscuous (don't even try it, FrG,
we discussed that at length) and married Catholics
cheat on their spouses at a far higher level
because they can't get out of their marriages.
A lovely group of sexually confused people from
top to bottom.

Quote: FrGamble

Okay so you don't agree with my definition of love. .

Because what you preach isn't love at
all. It's doing things your way or else.
Why do you think so many priests are
arrogant, they love being in the position
of power the Church has given them.
To mete out the 'love' they've been told
is their god given right to do. To stick
their big fat noses into the intimate part
of peoples lives, where it has no business
being. God is just an excuse for men to
rule other men.

One of the reasons my ex priest friend got
out of the business was the unending
arrogance of his fellow priests. I just saw
the movie Spotlight. In the scenes where
the abused men were asked what they're
parents thought, they all said the same thing.
Oh, this was a priest, he was next to god, he
could do no wrong. He would go to the homes
of the child sometimes, and the parents would
almost faint with delight. A priest, visiting them!

They felt this way because the priests were mostly
arrogant and above hanging with the riffraff. To
have one come to their home was like god himself
visiting. Which is just the attitude the priest wanted
them to have.

Quote: Nareed

That's quite the bigoted statement. Do you know any same sex couples not worn down by the guilt your cult insists on imposing on them?

I know many who are freed from the guilt and pain from the lifestyle they were living by following God's teaching on sexuality. You can read many of their testimonies on the website Courage

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You'll find same sex couples are little different from opposite sex couples, when they're not exposed to constant attacks on their relationships, like what you do here constantly.

I AM NOT attacking anyone's relationship and it breaks my heart that you would question my compassion and empathy. What I am against is the unnatural and emotionally, spiritually, and physically harmful sexual activity of homosexuals. I believe with all my heart that we need to recover the sense of true brotherly and sisterly love. A chaste and intimate sharing of life between two people of the same sex that doesn't remain as shallow as a beer commercial but doesn't become as confused and unnatural as sex with the same gender.

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So if sexual attraction is natural, and according to you not a sin, then why should the brain which produces and experiences the attraction be subordinate to the body?

The brain is more than just our desires and feelings. God forbid that every time we wanted to eat or punch someone we made our bodies do so. The brain is rational and has a will that is not the slave of our attractions or feelings. The body is subject to the brain (which seems to be defined by you more as our attractions, inclinations, or feelings) and the brain is subject to our rational will.

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Why are Christians so fearful of sex? And given what you said, how can it help to make same sex marriage illegal? Worse yet, why won't your cult accept such unions, if they be so necessary?

First of all Christianity celebrates sex as one of the greatest and most beautiful gifts that God has given us. Secondly, same sex marriage is a misnomer. Marriage is already defined as between a man and a woman and is obviously different than the loving relationship between two men or two women. Thirdly, you should ask yourself why your cult won't accept such unions because the Church can accept them.

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So quit the rabid homophobia already!

And while you're at it, put the misogyny back in the closet.

Quit the name calling and judgment already!

And while you're at it, put the irrationality back in the closet.

Quote: Evenbob

All Christians are fearful of sex, but the
Catholics are terrified of it.

Just a ludicrous and unfounded rant of statement, but in this same post you do worse.

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Yet if you're
a Catholic, this is the person you turn to for
sound sexual advice. Does this make sense to
anybody inside the Church or out?

First of all priests don't give sexual advice. I know you along with the rest of the world seem to identify love with sex, but there is so much more to it than that. Secondly, if your car breaks down do you want to take it to a mechanic who is new or who hasn't worked on many cars. Priests deal with relationship problems all the time and have most likely seen everything under the sun from infidelity to sickness to tragedy to communication issues to family issues and confused love languages. Marriage is about loving relationships first and foremost and priests know a lot about these. First of all they know deeply (hopefully) the perfect loving relationship of the Lord Jesus. He is the one who teaches us how to love each other, for He is love itself.

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Their young girls are
the most promiscuous (don't even try it, FrG,
we discussed that at length)

If I remember right you talked about it a couple of times and I didn't engage because it is just stupid and based on hearsay and your own prejudice.

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and married Catholics
cheat on their spouses at a far higher level
because they can't get out of their marriages.

Again plain stupidity that has no basis in fact or any study I have ever seen. Do you think Catholics can't get divorced? You as usual are working from faulty information and twisted bigotry.

Quote: Evenbob

To stick
their big fat noses into the intimate part
of peoples lives, where it has no business
being.

Are you saying that God should not be a part of the most intimate areas of people's lives?

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God is just an excuse for men to
rule other men.

Quite the opposite. It is God who gives every human being an inviolable dignity and rights that come directly from their creator. God is the reason men cannot rule over other men.

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One of the reasons my ex priest friend got
out of the business was the unending
arrogance of his fellow priests.

I will put up the priesthood against any occupation in the world in regards to our humility, kindness, and eagerness to serve. There are some bad and arrogant priests but ask your ex-priest friend about teachers and their rates of abuse and the pride and power they desire? There are all kinds of studies I have linked to before that you obviously ignored citing that priests have one of the highest satisfaction rates of any profession.

Quote: FrGamble

First of all priests don't give sexual advice.

So you think telling a Gay couple not
to have Gay sex is not giving sexual
advice? Really?

Quote: Evenbob

So you think telling a Gay couple not
to have Gay sex is not giving sexual
advice? Really?

I guess if you think giving advice not to do something is giving advice.

Quote: FrGamble

I know many who are freed from the guilt and pain from the lifestyle they were living by following God's teaching on sexuality. You can read many of their testimonies on the website Courage

If I answered the way you deserve, I'd get suspended again. So just recall what I said last time.

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[..]and it breaks my heart that you would question my compassion and empathy.

I can't attack that which you don't have.

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What I am against is the unnatural and emotionally, spiritually, and physically harmful sexual activity of homosexuals.

Why do you keep repeating this mindless drivel? Have you not been offensive enough? Have you not been insensitive enough?

Quote: FrGamble

I guess if you think giving advice not to do something is giving advice.

Advice is advice, good bad or indifferent.
If a Gay couple asks if it's OK for them to
have sex, and you answer one way or the
other, that's giving advice.

This is how not to give advice:

Gay Couple: Is it OK if we have sex with each other?

You: I can't answer that, I don't give advice on sexual matters.

Priests give sexual advice in one form
or another all the time and you know
it. I looked it up, they're regular marriage
counselors.