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| December 28th, 2015 at 11:17:55 AM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 | What exactly do Christians mean by "salvation"? Am I supposed to be saved from some kind of imminent peril? And what do they mean by "accepting Jesus as your personal savior? Is this like a personal shopper? Will a man dead for 2,000+ years offer some kind of personalized assistance in this mysterious "salvation" business? I don't expect I'll comprehend any of this. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| December 28th, 2015 at 1:59:10 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | as usual, there is a Wikipedia page on the subject https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvation_(Christianity) "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| December 28th, 2015 at 2:06:24 PM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 | Thanks! Would you believe the web filter at work blocks Wikipedia? I'll look it up tonight at home. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| December 28th, 2015 at 2:14:52 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | When FrG see's this thread he'll get tingly all over because it means Jesus is speaking directly to Nareed and it's only a matter of time till Nareed is saved. LOL If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| December 28th, 2015 at 2:55:43 PM permalink | |
| pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | Simple answer. Humankind has been separated from God. We are "saved" by His atonement on the cross and the power of the Holy Spirit. Jesus is God but also a person like we too are persons. I suspect that's where the personal savior idea comes from. I don't get it myself. |
| December 28th, 2015 at 3:08:34 PM permalink | |
| Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | clouds and harps instead of torture by your ex-wife welilding a hot poker. |
| December 28th, 2015 at 3:10:32 PM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18203 |
We are all born in a state of sin, accepting Jesus saves you from this state. Am I close, Padre? The President is a fink. |
| December 28th, 2015 at 3:50:34 PM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
I appreciate your reply, but I still don't understand what any of that means. "Saved" from what? How does an execution constitute atonement, and for what? Never mind for whom. Atonement is non-transferable. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| December 28th, 2015 at 4:10:28 PM permalink | |
| pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | That's correct and salvation is being re-united with God. Spiritually that is. You need to put your faith hope and trust in Christ to be born again. Spiritually that is. "Accepting Christ" is a misnomer. |
| December 28th, 2015 at 4:21:39 PM permalink | |
| pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | Your original question has been answered. It's so simple even a child can understand it. Adults... not so much. "Saved" from a God less eternity. Atonement is transferable. There is no forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood. Christ paid the ultimate sacrifice for all time. His blood is a sufficient sacrifice. We don't ever need to sacrifice again. It is finished on the cross. Simple, see? There is really not much more to be said on that specific question of yours. |