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Arizona man in jail after attempting to shoot the moon.

Quote: San Jose Mercury News

An Arizona man arrested for unlawfully discharging a firearm told authorities that he was trying to shoot the moon.

Prescott Valley police responded to the home after a woman reported that her boyfriend had fired several shots from a handgun and still was armed last Friday night.

The woman and her teenage son told police that 39-year-old Cameron Read was talking about seeing Halley's Comet and fired a round out of the window.

They heard several more shots before fleeing.

Yee haw!

Quote: AZDuffman

An entire list is not possible, but here are a few Bain funded early or saved:

Staples--90,000 jobs
The Sports Authority--7,000 jobs
Totes-Isotoner--1,000 jobs
Dominoes Pizza--6,300 jobs
Steel Dynamics--6,300 jobs

But as you correctly state, Bain was not founded to "create jobs" but rather to "create wealth." Romney did well here and Obama has not created any real wealth in his lifetime other than book sales. Yes, Bain probably off-shored some jobs and outsourced others. This is how business is done, you concentrate on what is your core competency and outsoruce other things. Paychex is a more famous company based on outsourcing. Payroll done by a payroll company just makes more sense for small to medium sized outfits insead of hiring your own department.

I'm glad that you admit Bain outsourced, with Marion being his poster child. I'm free to admit that Bain did create some jobs. What the balance of jobs created or not created is, I don't care. Why did Romney lose? He couldn't connect to his voters and couldn't get any passion out of the Republican base. Like Kerry in 2004, it should have been a slam dunk for the GOP in 2012. Part of that reason was his uber-wealth and his inability to look like he could connect with the middle class, so I will argue.

So you're okay then with the policy of allowing outsourcing to maximize profit. Good. I don't argue that Obama didn't create any wealth. I'll well aware that he's a lifer politician.

Quote: AZ

No, sir... This hardly sounds like "peace" to me. The war was not optional, though the timing was. And that is a smart thing, a smart general fights at a time and place of his own choosing. Had we slowly pulled out, which was going to happen as the Saudis asked us to leave, he would easily have attacked a neighbor unprovoked as he did on 4 previous times (Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Israel) and if we were gone to build up might take a year or more, and we might have been involved elsewhere when he did it.

You are rewriting history. The United Nations was pretty convinced that sanctions were working. I will contend that the world was pretty much behind the USA and its efforts in Afghanistan but its actions to invade Iraq without UN's blessing ended that post-911 support. And the fact that it purposefully forwarded iffy intelligence (at best, iffy) to advance its cause shows that it was grasping at straws to try to oust a leader who was not guilty of violating the UN sanctions that they imposed. There were no WMD, contrary to Powell's trumped up charges at the UN.

Quote: boymimbo

Why did Romney lose? He couldn't connect to his voters and couldn't get any passion out of the Republican base.

You can say that about pretty ANY losing presidential candidate in history. The "couldn't connect" argument is lame. Romney lost because he had to fight Obama AND the liberal media AND the stupidity of LIV's.

Quote: boymimbo

Part of that reason was his uber-wealth...

"Uber-wealth"? Sounds like you've been getting your info from the mainstream media.

Do you happen to know how much Michael Bloomberg is worth???? FYI, he is literally over 100 times MORE wealthy than Romney, yet the media has never harped on his enormous fortune (which dwarfs Romney's).

Good lord, this guy's being touted as the next Republican presidential nominee?

The funny thing is that Christie's doing everything possible to get Hollywood and the media to like him, yet they will turn on him in an instant if he ever does become the nominee. (You want proof? Google search "john mccain 2008")

Christie is a clown, I still haven't got over him
holding hands with Obama after the hurricane.
He might as well have French kissed him..

Bergdahl’s dad was accused of stalking twin sisters

Figures!

Quote: boymimbo

Why did Romney lose? He couldn't connect to his voters and couldn't get any passion out of the Republican base. Like Kerry in 2004, it should have been a slam dunk for the GOP in 2012. Part of that reason was his uber-wealth and his inability to look like he could connect with the middle class, so I will argue.

It is a sad day indeed when "wealth" is considered a bad thing. My feeling is he lost because he was running against Obama Claus as well as a media determined to get him re-elected. I think he would have won if not for Sandy as any POTUS gets a few % behind him after any disaster.

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So you're okay then with the policy of allowing outsourcing to maximize profit. Good. I don't argue that Obama didn't create any wealth. I'll well aware that he's a lifer politician.

Outsourcing and off-shoring are a fact of life, though i do wish LIVs would stop using the terms interghangably.

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You are rewriting history. The United Nations was pretty convinced that sanctions were working. I will contend that the world was pretty much behind the USA and its efforts in Afghanistan but its actions to invade Iraq without UN's blessing ended that post-911 support. And the fact that it purposefully forwarded iffy intelligence (at best, iffy) to advance its cause shows that it was grasping at straws to try to oust a leader who was not guilty of violating the UN sanctions that they imposed. There were no WMD, contrary to Powell's trumped up charges at the UN.

Saddam was violating sanctions as well as his own peace treaty. The UN is a joke, puts the worst nations in charge of human rights. I don't really care that Libya didn't think Saddam was violating sanctions--he was.

We agree to disagree, AZ, as always.

Quote: Beethoven

You can say that about pretty ANY losing presidential candidate in history. The "couldn't connect" argument is lame. Romney lost because he had to fight Obama AND the liberal media AND the stupidity of LIV's.


"Uber-wealth"? Sounds like you've been getting your info from the mainstream media.

Someone worth that kind of money is extremely wealthy.

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Do you happen to know how much Michael Bloomberg is worth???? FYI, he is literally over 100 times MORE wealthy than Romney, yet the media has never harped on his enormous fortune (which dwarfs Romney's).

Bloomberg wasn't running for president.

Quote: boymimbo

Someone worth that kind of money is extremely wealthy.

What I will never get on the "wealth" thing is Obama was the one who kept bragging about how much money he had and made yet Romney is the one who "could not connect with voters."