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Quote: Gandler

Possible in some areas, but unlikely.

In my experience, the Developer holds the majority of voting seats (by owning enough parcels in the development), so that they get the final say. (and in some states they can just set it so they always have the majority holding even after all lots have been sold).
Essentially HOAs are run by developers.

When the lots are sold the developer leaves. At least any place I have heard of. Most are run by HOA companies, which bleed the owners to death.

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Conservatives should love them because they are normally communities where the governing body is a private entity....
HOAs often do their own enforcement, security, and even parking tickets.

No, conservatives generally hate them because they are an unneeded level of government. We do not need someone to tell us what color we can paint our house or how we can landscape. HOAs are a detriment to freedom.

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If you don't like the rules of the HOA why would you move there and try to destroy it from the inside? Why not move somewhere that shares your values? Seems irrational, you know what you are getting into with an HOA... And, if you are not prepared to follow the rules...

In newer cities, the south, southwest, and west; you often do not have much choice. Some states require them for new developments. Only reason I would ever buy in one would be if I get a condo one day. And I will only do that if BTC hits $2MM and I retire and travel for months on end and need a place I can lock and leave.

HOAs are fine for people who like to follow a bunch of rules and have someone else make their decisions for them.

Quote: AZDuffman

HOAs are fine for people who like to follow a bunch of rules and have someone else make their decisions for them.

No problem whatsoever with HOAs. Like many things, if you do have a problem with them, don't move into a development that has one? So to me it is a VOLUNTARY organization that you must have DECIDED to join by buying a house that YOU KNEW was subject to an HOA.

I live in a small development that looks like it has an HOA, but doesn't. Right in front of my house is a circle which has a few trees, bushes.... A neighbor asks each year for $75 for flowers, mowing, etc.... He has no HOA type authority. He also asks for $125 a year to mow a large berm at the entrance to the community. I happily write him a check for $200.
Last year he told me a neighbor threatened to sue him if he ever bothered him again. That he has no interest in contributing. He said around 90% just give him a check, 3 just ignore his request, and the 1 jerk. (Around 40 houses).

I wouldn't mind if it was taken care of by an HOA. Then everyone would be forced to contribute equally.

He does a freaking great job on the circle, by the way.

Quote: SOOPOO

No problem whatsoever with HOAs. Like many things, if you do have a problem with them, don't move into a development that has one? So to me it is a VOLUNTARY organization that you must have DECIDED to join by buying a house that YOU KNEW was subject to an HOA.

I live in a small development that looks like it has an HOA, but doesn't. Right in front of my house is a circle which has a few trees, bushes.... A neighbor asks each year for $75 for flowers, mowing, etc.... He has no HOA type authority. He also asks for $125 a year to mow a large berm at the entrance to the community. I happily write him a check for $200.
Last year he told me a neighbor threatened to sue him if he ever bothered him again. That he has no interest in contributing. He said around 90% just give him a check, 3 just ignore his request, and the 1 jerk. (Around 40 houses).

I wouldn't mind if it was taken care of by an HOA. Then everyone would be forced to contribute equally.

He does a freaking great job on the circle, by the way.

Exactly I see endless complaints and news stories about "I wanted to build X on my property but the HOA will not let me, its not fair".
You knew the codes and rules when you bought there.... Nobody is forced to live in a HOA. HOAs are designed to foster a certain appearance and environment.
They are not for everyone. Many people love them. Many people hate them. Move where you want to live and then everyone is happy.

I don’t like the concept of HOA’s...but I live in a lower middle class townhome community, and I know the place would be a dump without one.

Quote: SOOPOO

No problem whatsoever with HOAs. Like many things, if you do have a problem with them, don't move into a development that has one? So to me it is a VOLUNTARY organization that you must have DECIDED to join by buying a house that YOU KNEW was subject to an HOA.

This is true, but even with this there is a lack of protections for the homeowner.

HOA's have prohibited members from putting up flagpoles for example. They have called flagpoles "structures." Which is insane. There is little legal protection when the HOA decides to fine for any little thing. Many just become revenue machines for the management company they get turned over to. And lastly, too many laws that require them in new developments. Making it difficult in some places to avoid them.

My HOA recently cited me for my upstairs guest bedroom blinds being in disrrepair. The cat got into that bedroom and crawled around in the blinds and messed them up. It was a simple fix, I just went in the bedroom and straightened the blinds. They were not wrong but it was petty.

My HOA manages lots of houses and neighborhoods. It is so big that I only get charged $11 a month. I can't even complain about that.

Quote: DRich

My HOA recently cited me for my upstairs guest bedroom blinds being in disrrepair. The cat got into that bedroom and crawled around in the blinds and messed them up. It was a simple fix, I just went in the bedroom and straightened the blinds. They were not wrong but it was petty.

My HOA manages lots of houses and neighborhoods. It is so big that I only get charged $11 a month. I can't even complain about that.

Did they actually cite you or just send you a reminder letter?

Quote: Gandler

Did they actually cite you or just send you a reminder letter?

Either way it is an HOA gone nuts and why I will never live in one by choice.

I've been saying from the get go that these dumbass police state orders to stay home are ridiculous.
Now even Fredo's brother is "shocked" about new cases. 🙄

Cuomo says it’s ‘shocking’ most new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who had been staying home

Quote: Gandler

Did they actually cite you or just send you a reminder letter?

They cited me and fined me $50. All I had to do was go to the board meeting and show them that the problem was resolved and they waived the fine. I enjoyed the process even though I didn'tknow if they would waive the fine. I like getting up in front of people and telling them why they are wrong and I am right.