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December 17th, 2019 at 8:16:02 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: terapined
Lots of conservatives in California
Devin Nunes


Like New York, the vast majority of Californians are liberal Democrats. And like New York, they are heavily concentrated in the large metropolitan areas. If you leave the big cities (Cal has lots of them!) the rest of the state is mostly conservative. So 'lots' can be misleading. There are way more conservatives in California than Utah, but by percentage of population.... no....
December 17th, 2019 at 9:06:24 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: SOOPOO
So 'lots' can be misleading.


Lots of conservatives in California
What state has more conservatives?
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December 17th, 2019 at 12:24:33 PM permalink
petroglyph
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https://wolfstreet.com/2019/12/16/college-enrollment-skids-eighth-year-in-a-row-in-2019-but-student-loans-skyrocket/

"The 10.8% decline in enrollment since 2011 comes even as student loan balances have surged 74% over the same period, from $940 billion to $1.64 trillion:"

Last I heard it just went over a trillion, wow.
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December 17th, 2019 at 12:42:08 PM permalink
Tripdufan
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Quote: SOOPOO
Like New York, the vast majority of Californians are liberal Democrats. And like New York, they are heavily concentrated in the large metropolitan areas. If you leave the big cities (Cal has lots of them!) the rest of the state is mostly conservative. So 'lots' can be misleading. There are way more conservatives in California than Utah, but by percentage of population.... no....


And think of ALL those conservatives in rural California, and rural New York, that are being disenfranchised by the Electoral College.
December 17th, 2019 at 1:03:14 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: petroglyph
https://wolfstreet.com/2019/12/16/college-enrollment-skids-eighth-year-in-a-row-in-2019-but-student-loans-skyrocket/

"The 10.8% decline in enrollment since 2011 comes even as student loan balances have surged 74% over the same period, from $940 billion to $1.64 trillion:"

Last I heard it just went over a trillion, wow.


A good thing fewer are going. The loan balances will take longer to level off I think due to both tuition increase and lag effect. Seems the really buried ones are those who took often useless advanced degrees.
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December 17th, 2019 at 1:03:56 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Tripdufan
And think of ALL those conservatives in rural California, and rural New York, that are being disenfranchised by the Electoral College.


Nobody is disenfranchised by the Electoral College.
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December 17th, 2019 at 1:21:02 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Nobody is disenfranchised by the Electoral College.


The electoral college preserves the rights of people in rural areas from being drowned out by metro areas.
December 17th, 2019 at 2:03:24 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: AZDuffman
Seems the really buried ones are those who took often useless advanced degrees.
Knowingly useless or touted as 'booming career opportunity"?
December 17th, 2019 at 2:46:37 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: Tripdufan
And think of ALL those conservatives in rural California, and rural New York, that are being disenfranchised by the Electoral College.


You know, I do think about it that way. I know that my vote for President or Senator is totally meaningless. But I accept the concept of the Electoral College over my personal needs to feel my vote 'counts'. My vote does count in my vote for Congressman, as well as for my local State Assemblyman and State Senator. I'm in a 50-50 district for State Assembly, which just flipped last election to a Democrat. Her husband is a basketball buddy of mine! My State Senate district is one of those gerrymandered ones that is solidly Republican.
December 19th, 2019 at 5:37:02 PM permalink
petroglyph
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