Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

Quote: odiousgambit

if we don't get smarter what happens when we get a real pandemic?

yeah, I'm being provocative, but I swear it's remarkable how clobbered we are getting buy the lamest thing of it's nature that could have possible come around. <1% death rate? that's lame

Quote: odiousgambit

if we don't get smarter what happens when we get a real pandemic?

yeah, I'm being provocative, but I swear it's remarkable how clobbered we are getting buy the lamest thing of it's nature that could have possible come around. <1% death rate? that's lame

Quote: kenarman

What math did you do to get your less than 1% death rate. Seems like something you pulled out of your hat. Currently we have 1.27 million confirmed/recovered cases in the world and 69K deaths for a rate of over 5%.

Quote: DRich

Because he is looking at it the proper way. What percentage of the population will die from this virus? When we get to 3.5 million deaths in the U.S. that will be about 1%. As I have said before, until 1% of the population die I really can't even take this seriously. When we get to 10 million dead in the u.s. I will start believing this is more serious than I thought.

Quote: kenarman

What math did you do to get your less than 1% death rate. Seems like something you pulled out of your hat. Currently we have 1.27 million confirmed/recovered cases in the world and 69K deaths for a rate of over 5%. I expect this is high since we still don't have a handle on how many people have had mild symptoms and never been diagnosed, hopefully that is a very large number. We also don't yet know what percentage of people will never get the virus through natural immunity or no exposure, many of the "experts" put that number in the range of 50%.

The really scary number right now which hopefully is simply the result of the world not getting a handle on things fast enough is the current death rate of those people that were positively diagnosed and are now either considered virus free or died. This number world wide is 330K the 69K deaths are 21% of this number.

Quote: odiousgambit

My point is more to what happens if we get something worse rather than downplaying the current situation.

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Humans’ ability to efficiently shed heat has enabled us to range over every continent, but a wet-bulb temperature (TW) of 35°C marks our upper physiological limit, and much lower values have serious health and productivity impacts. Climate models project the first 35°C TW occurrences by the mid-21st century.

However, a comprehensive evaluation of weather station data shows that some coastal subtropical locations have already reported a TW of 35°C and that extreme humid heat overall has more than doubled in frequency since 1979. Recent exceedances of 35°C in global maximum sea surface temperature provide further support for the validity of these dangerously high TW values.

We find the most extreme humid heat is highly localized in both space and time and is correspondingly substantially underestimated in reanalysis products. Our findings thus underscore the serious challenge posed by humid heat that is more intense than previously reported and increasingly severe.

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Air pollution caused by the burning of fossil fuels such as coal and oil was responsible for 8.7m deaths globally in 2018, a staggering one in five of all people who died that year, new research has found.

Countries with the most prodigious consumption of fossil fuels to power factories, homes and vehicles are suffering the highest death tolls, with the study finding more than one in 10 deaths in both the US and Europe were caused by the resulting pollution, along with nearly a third of deaths in eastern Asia, which includes China. Death rates in South America and Africa were significantly lower.