Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

July 29th, 2024 at 2:03:38 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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If plants grow faster with higher CO2 ppm, then is climate change ideology (indirect taxation) racism?



Check the bottom portion of the list (the most hungry):

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So what is the optimal atmospheric CO2 level for the Earth's flora and fauna?
July 29th, 2024 at 2:42:15 PM permalink
DoubleGold
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So what is the optimal atmospheric CO2 level for the Earth's flora and fauna?


Let it rise until there is no black race hunger.
July 29th, 2024 at 4:22:43 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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So what is the optimal atmospheric CO2 level for the Earth's flora and fauna?


You know that is a question without an answer. Depends what your endpoint is. I’ll make it simple. Half of current level, or double current level, is bad for life on our floating rock. As we know it. I lived CO2 my entire professional life. Google ‘end tidal CO2’.
July 29th, 2024 at 8:54:01 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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You know that is a question without an answer. Depends what your endpoint is. I’ll make it simple. Half of current level, or double current level, is bad for life on our floating rock. As we know it. I lived CO2 my entire professional life. Google ‘end tidal CO2’.


I would posit that the current flora and fauna would do just fine at an atmospheric CO2 level half our current level. I would also posit that *current* CO2 levels and CO2 levels above current levels are creating environmental and ecological conditions that are dangerous to humans and human habitation.

With respect, I don't see the correlation between end tidal CO2 and atmospheric CO2 levels. Not my area of expertise. I lived drugs my entire professional life. And radioactivity. Especially radioactive drugs.
July 30th, 2024 at 5:17:35 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: GenoDRPh
I would posit that the current flora and fauna would do just fine at an atmospheric CO2 level half our current level. I would also posit that *current* CO2 levels and CO2 levels above current levels are creating environmental and ecological conditions that are dangerous to humans and human habitation.


Do you even know our current CO2 level?

The media put "climate emergency" in the official stylebook a few years back because "climate change" was not scaring people enough. CO2 has gone up and down over time, planets like earth will regulate it back and forth. Has been for 4.5 billion years. Humans have not even been around for most of this time and will be gone again in 1000 years, probably far less than that. Turn off the news channels that are giving you stories that are to science what "People" magazine is to journalism.
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July 30th, 2024 at 10:02:10 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: GenoDRPh
I would posit that the current flora and fauna would do just fine at an atmospheric CO2 level half our current level. I would also posit that *current* CO2 levels and CO2 levels above current levels are creating environmental and ecological conditions that are dangerous to humans and human habitation.

With respect, I don't see the correlation between end tidal CO2 and atmospheric CO2 levels. Not my area of expertise. I lived drugs my entire professional life. And radioactivity. Especially radioactive drugs.


You are correct. Essentially no correlation between atmospheric and end tidal CO2. My point is just that I dealt with CO2 levels for every OR case I had.

As far as CO2 levels and effects on us, I leave that to the experts. And I’m not one of them.
July 30th, 2024 at 10:49:02 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: SOOPOO
You are correct. Essentially no correlation between atmospheric and end tidal CO2. My point is just that I dealt with CO2 levels for every OR case I had.

As far as CO2 levels and effects on us, I leave that to the experts. And I’m not one of them.


The experts are saying current CO2 levels and their current rate of rise are absolutely no bueno.
August 9th, 2024 at 8:24:24 AM permalink
rxwine
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August 20th, 2024 at 5:30:04 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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headline,

"The Atlantic is cooling at record speed and nobody knows why

After over a year of record-high global sea temperatures, the Atlantic is cooling off more quickly than ever recorded, which could impact weather around the world"

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2444394-the-atlantic-is-cooling-at-record-speed-and-nobody-knows-why/

well, you can't argue that it isn't climate change. Ice age type
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August 20th, 2024 at 5:37:15 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: odiousgambit
headline,

"The Atlantic is cooling at record speed and nobody knows why

After over a year of record-high global sea temperatures, the Atlantic is cooling off more quickly than ever recorded, which could impact weather around the world"

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2444394-the-atlantic-is-cooling-at-record-speed-and-nobody-knows-why/

well, you can't argue that it isn't climate change. Ice age type



There's more cracked ice floating in it from warming. That's my guess.


My example is: would you be feel colder in a swimming pool with one big block of ice at one end and you at the other end, or would you be colder if that ice was broken up and floating all over the pool.
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