Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

Quote: AZDuffman

If you were actually informed you would know that natural gas is the biggest reason for CO2 declines.

Also, gasoline does not come from the gas station. You have to drill for oil to make it. The people who demand we stop drilling are the first to whine when the price of gasoline goes up.

Flaring of raw NG is also the casue of 40% of the black soot in the Arctic, and 9 trillion miles worth of car driving in CO2. NG is so plentiful and cheap that it isn't even worth capturing and processing as fuel.

Quote: rxwine

I am actually informed. You, not so much.

If by "informed" you mean believing whatever the infobabe on lamestreamTV tells you then yes, you are.

If you mean thinking and understanding then not at all.

Quote: GenoDRPh

Flaring of raw NG is also the casue of 40% of the black soot in the Arctic, and 9 trillion miles worth of car driving in CO2. NG is so plentiful and cheap that it isn't even worth capturing and processing as fuel.

Meaning we are not running out. A great thing!

Quote: AZDuffman

If by "informed" you mean believing whatever the infobabe on lamestreamTV tells you then yes, you are.

If you mean thinking and understanding then not at all.

Sure, sure, whatever, and what do you use your head for? Hammering in nails?

Quote: AZDuffman

In 150 years we will have about 6 billion fewer people than we do today. In 300 years we might have no humans left at all. My old prediction of no more than 1000 years I have revised to mankind is gone in 300-1000 years.

it seems we are going to have less people in the West, except for migration.

Africa’s population is growing and should hit 4 billion by 2100. Other areas are also growing, so we are expected to hit 9 billion fairly soon … from what I have found, so it seems you are finding a different projection somewhere

Quote: AZDuffman

The atmosphere is not even 1% CO2

My first suspicion on the whole matter came about because the scientists aren’t more concerned about other effects, because a CO2 level of 1% would be disastrous, I believe… I do know 5% CO2 causes rapid asphyxiation in minutes. Nor has the level of O2 decreased, another potential disaster. Yet no concern as been voiced, they came up with global warming concern. As I said, I do want this studied and we should implement things that are practical, and avoid things like rapid, forced change to EVs that will cause backlash and set back any progress.

If Duffman doesn't believe small percentages matter in trapped heat, he should tie a plastic bag over his head and go stand out in the hot sun. Get one of those thin ones, like that thin dry cleaner plastic bag.

Quote: GenoDRPh

If trees are having an orgy with all the CO2 in the air, why are CO2 levels rising?

From 2000 to 2020, the world has a net loss of forests. The US, Canada and Russia also have net loss, Brazil as well (cutting down the Amazon rainforests). We are (a) cutting down more trees than we replant each year. (b) Cutting down old growth forests, which provide habitat for biodiversity (c) pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere that the plants on land an sea are able to use. The rest just builds up.

CO2 levels are rising because eight billion people are trying to survive.

The world population has tripled since 1950. Consequently, the use of fossil fuels has increased by 800% since 1950.

Despite the loss of 2.4% of tree cover over the past twenty years, there are still more trees today than thirty-five years ago, and the earth is 5% greener today than it was in 2020.

Where we once had trees converting CO2, there are crops doing the same thing.

Trees were cleared to add farmland to feed the growing world population, causing a dramatic rise in crop yields.

Over the past 20 years the CO2 absorbing greenleaf area of the earth increased by 5.5 million square kilometers. An area ten times the size of france, or 44% the size of the USA.

Quote: rxwine

If Duffman doesn't believe small percentages matter in trapped heat, he should tie a plastic bag over his head and go stand out in the hot sun. Get one of those thin ones, like that thin dry cleaner plastic bag.

That equates to less than 1% co2 in atmosphere even with all the increase how exactly?

See, when the infobabe didn’t tell you then all you can do is make a jerk out of yourself.

Quote: odiousgambit

it seems we are going to have less people in the West, except for migration.

Africa’s population is growing and should hit 4 billion by 2100. Other areas are also growing, so we are expected to hit 9 billion fairly soon … from what I have found, so it seems you are finding a different projection somewhere

Almost everywhere outside sub Saharan Africa is below replacement level fertility now. Immigration is as they say rearranging the chairs on the titanic. Africa will likely fall into the same level but faster than the west did. I first read about this almost 20 years ago. Now I see more reports on it but still few mainstream ones. Who Taylor dates gets more ratings. I started a thread on it back a few years. I expect about 2040 the effects start to hit with economic disaster by2070.