Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

Quote: PotPie

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extreme heat in Miami - records have been broken - and it's only May

"Not only is it insane it's dangerous" said John Morales a meteorologist

"It's completely crazy what just happened," said Brian McNoldy a senior research analyst at the U. of Miami

from the article:

"the heat index reached 112 this past Saturday and Sunday breaking the previous daily record by an astonishing 11 degrees"


https://archive.ph/fALN8

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The heat index? Really? A new high, but also a new low ... bringing out the heat index for climate panicking. Since when is the humidity supposed to verify climate panic theories?

Same article says "Sunday’s high of 96 degrees was also record-breaking, Mr. McNoldy said. Saturday’s high of 94 was one degree shy of that day’s record" [presumably the 96 degrees on Sunday broke the record by a degree or so]

Newsworthy for Miami residents, to know the conditions. But for the rest of the country, not. Generally, if it's hotter on the East coast, it's cooler on the west coast. Check out the below and you'll see that for the month of May San Francisco averaged 57.4 degrees so far, while the average is 59.

It's been warmer in VA this Spring too. Evidently records are not being set, though, or I'd be hearing about it

https://en.climate-data.org/north-america/united-states-of-america/california/san-francisco-385/t/may-5/#monthly-weather-data
https://en.climate-data.org/north-america/united-states-of-america/california/san-francisco-385/t/may-5/#climate-table-month

Quote: AZDuffman

It’s hot in south Florida? Well that is news!

Find a scientist to think for you, you're doing a poor job on your own.

Basically, using the weather here or the weather there for climate data is not a scientific approach. It's what's going on with ocean temperatures that needs to be looked at, and pretty much the data is all new.

Quote: AZDuffman

It’s hot in south Florida? Well that is news!

no, that wasn't the news

the news was it's hotter than it's ever been before

nobody is fooled by your spin

extreme heat in Mexico has caused 147 howler monkeys to drop dead - they're falling out of the trees as many as 10 at a time - people are tripping over them

they are critical to the country's envirornment - the article explains how and why

26 people have also died from the heat also

temps have topped 113 degrees

from the article:

"severe drought has parched most of Mexico leaving parts of the country grappling with an acute water crisis"


https://archive.ph/I8R6e


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Quote: odiousgambit

The heat index? Really? A new high, but also a new low ... bringing out the heat index for climate panicking. Since when is the humidity supposed to verify climate panic theories?

Same article says "Sunday’s high of 96 degrees was also record-breaking, Mr. McNoldy said. Saturday’s high of 94 was one degree shy of that day’s record" [presumably the 96 degrees on Sunday broke the record by a degree or so]

Newsworthy for Miami residents, to know the conditions. But for the rest of the country, not. Generally, if it's hotter on the East coast, it's cooler on the west coast. Check out the below and you'll see that for the month of May San Francisco averaged 57.4 degrees so far, while the average is 59.

It's been warmer in VA this Spring too. Evidently records are not being set, though, or I'd be hearing about it

https://en.climate-data.org/north-america/united-states-of-america/california/san-francisco-385/t/may-5/#monthly-weather-data
https://en.climate-data.org/north-america/united-states-of-america/california/san-francisco-385/t/may-5/#climate-table-month

One degree of heat can be the breaking point for someone near heat exhaustion who might have survived otherwise. Extreme variations can increase stress and cause more failures sooner over time than might normally happen. Just sayin'

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from NASA:

"Yes, the vast majority of actively publishing climate scientists - 97 percent - agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change"

9 different links on this link showing the point of view of scientists re this issue


https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/faq/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/


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Quote: PotPie

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from NASA:

"Yes, the vast majority of actively publishing climate scientists - 97 percent - agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change"

9 different links on this link showing the point of view of scientists re this issue


https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/faq/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/


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the original flawed study that generated that claim has been thoroughly discredited, but as you can see the claim lives on.

Ironically, the irritation of seeing it 'live on' just caused me to protest when actually I have to imagine a reasonable study and conclusion wouldn't bother me. Something like 'a majority agreeing human activity is contributing significantly' would be OK with me. 97% is preposterous, as has been shown, especially to agree to the very statement "humans are causing global warming" which excludes any natural warming factor. Anybody who would agree about any percentage at all [much less an implied 100%] almost would have to *not* be a scientist by definition as this is unknowable

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/?sh=491f39f43f9f

Quote: rxwine

One degree of heat can be the breaking point for someone near heat exhaustion who might have survived otherwise. Extreme variations can increase stress and cause more failures sooner over time than might normally happen. Just sayin'

OK but did you miss the point that this was the "heat index" which factors in humidity, not merely the high temperature, which surely is the only thing relevant to the argument that local weather is due to global warming. [local weather claims are generally just TV people doing that]

It's just dirty pool to use the heat index

from the Forbles article "the study was publicly challenged by economist David Friedman, [following that] one observer calculated that only 1.6 percent [of the articles] explicitly stated that man-made greenhouse gases caused at least 50 percent of global warming."

1.6% versus 97%.

Quote: odiousgambit

the original flawed study that generated that claim has been thoroughly discredited, but as you can see the claim lives on.

Ironically, the irritation of seeing it 'live on' just caused me to protest when actually I have to imagine a reasonable study and conclusion wouldn't bother me. Something like 'a majority agreeing human activity is contributing significantly' would be OK with me. 97% is preposterous, as has been shown, especially to agree to the very statement "humans are causing global warming" which excludes any natural warming factor. Anybody who would agree about any percentage at all [much less an implied 100%] almost would have to *not* be a scientist by definition as this is unknowable

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/?sh=491f39f43f9f

the author of that article is Alex Epstein the Founder for the Center for Industrial Progress and

author of "The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels"

an obviously biased partisan spinning, spinning, spinning

the link is an article shooting down many of Epstein's myths


https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/review-the-moral-case-for-fossil-fuels-really


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