Original Sin?
November 28th, 2019 at 10:24:25 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
How could they count, they are all personal choices made by you and not some god. You seem to be confused about what god does for you and what you do for god. So far you haven't named one thing god does for you that doesn't happen in my life also. All you have is a personally chosen lifestyle that has nothing to do with god's personal involvement. Just like me!! If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
November 28th, 2019 at 11:04:06 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Well if you think God has nothing to do with my prayer life all I can say is have a Happy Thanksgiving! “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
November 28th, 2019 at 11:38:10 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
We both know study after study since the late 19th century has shown prayer has no effect on the healing of sick people in the hospital. Some studies cost millions and took years to do. No difference in the survival rate of the prayed for and the not prayed for. So you're saying the only thing in your life that's different than mine is, you have a prayer life and I don't? A prayer life, according to voluminous research, is just you talking to yourself? Wow. At least my sister in law gets green lights and good parking spaces and raises at work and healthy grand kids because of her constant praying. She gets lots of bang for her bucks in the collection plate. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
November 28th, 2019 at 1:30:13 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | For the umpteenth time prayer is not about getting anything material! Do you think God is Santa? No wonder you have such a visceral reaction to religion. Prayer is about a loving relationship with God and that is the center of my life and the greatest blessing! That is what you don't have, but you could easily have it! Just be prepared that it doesn't mean you'll get all green lights and great parking spots. In fact it means you will have to deny yourself, take up your cross, and love God and others as Jesus shows us. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
November 28th, 2019 at 1:45:44 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
You're doing that, not some god. You're doing all of it. You're the one praying, god never contacts you about anything. How could he, there is no god. Your religion is your hobby, you get something from it so you keep doing it. My sister in law pretends god does things for her all day long, and it makes her happy. 'Gods love' has to be most over used oxymoron in history. Where is it, certainly not in the Bible anywhere. All we see there is a petty, childish and vindictive god. Is gods love with the little kids dying by the hour in Africa of AIDS and mosquito borne disease or starvation? Nope, not there either. Gods love is obviously only in the imagination of his followers. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
November 28th, 2019 at 3:34:41 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | You really have no idea. Trust me you could not be more wrong, and you have been wrong plenty of times. Just enjoy your day and leave it be, you have no idea what you are talking about. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
November 28th, 2019 at 4:17:23 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
UhHuh. What's becoming obvious, thru your own words is, like everything else, you get out of Xtionity exactly what you put into it. And not a whit more. Go to church on Sunday and pray, and get a little satisfaction that day. Do it every day, wrap yourself up in it, and you'll get satisfaction on a greater level. But a god isn't doing anything here, you're doing all the work. You can get the same satisfaction thru any hobby you love. I know a guy who collects old bottles. He spends all his spare time at it, that's his religion. It gives his life meaning and purpose and satisfaction. No god needed Your religion is no different. My friend loves it so much he actually tries to convert others to the hobby. Imagine that.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
November 28th, 2019 at 5:25:36 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | O great bottle, please guide me in the right ways and give me strength to be patient with the ignorance of Evenbob. Nope doesn't work the same, sorry. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
November 28th, 2019 at 7:49:16 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
That's exactly what you're saying, you get out of it exactly what you put into it. Right? Just like everything else in life. You get what you expect to get. For you it's spiritual, for my wife's family it's green lights and parking spaces. I can get all of that without any of the falderal of god worship. falderal: absurdity, baloney, bunk, garbage, gibberish, gobbledygook, lunacy, nonsense, stupidity, twaddle, craziness. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
November 28th, 2019 at 9:00:55 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | How do you get a personal, life giving, inspirational, and grace filled relationship through prayer to God when you don't even believe in God nor are interested in attempting to see if He is real? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |