"Pardon Me..."

Quote: GenoDRPh

Because there was no serious allegation that those cases violated his due process or civil rights. Even Judge Cannon said so.

Actually there was just no serious allegation. Unless taking out a loan and paying it back is some kind of crime.

Quote: AZDuffman

Actually there was just no serious allegation. Unless taking out a loan and paying it back is some kind of crime.

I;m not going on a pointless back and forth with you on this. If the Feds didn't have a case with the documents or Jan 6, Donny and his lawyers would have pled that in open court. They didn't. Case closed.

Quote: GenoDRPh

I;m not going on a pointless back and forth with you on this. If the Feds didn't have a case with the documents or Jan 6, Donny and his lawyers would have pled that in open court. They didn't. Case closed.

Are you that naive? The documents was pure deep state trying to keep him from running again. Jan 6 was about liberals trying to make a demonstration that got out of hand into something it was not. You are just worried that lawfare might be turned on the same liberals who cheered it on.

Quote: AZDuffman

Are you that naive? The documents was pure deep state trying to keep him from running again. Jan 6 was about liberals trying to make a demonstration that got out of hand into something it was not. You are just worried that lawfare might be turned on the same liberals who cheered it on.

Right. And those two assassinations attempts on Trump were just two guys confused about where the gun range was.

Quote: rxwine

Right. And those two assassinations attempts on Trump were just two guys confused about where the gun range was.

Huh? One was on a rooftop.

It looks like Uncle Joe is preparing to issue massive pardons to preemptively stop Trump and his lackeys from going after his detractors.

Do it, Joe: stymie the oaf and his minions.

Quote: missedhervee

It looks like Uncle Joe is preparing to issue massive pardons to preemptively stop Trump and his lackeys from going after his detractors.

Do it, Joe: stymie the oaf and his minions.

So you are admitting they committed crimes going after Trump? Do you realize what a hypocrite this makes you every time you cry "JAN 6!"

Biden has become the king of pardons. Thing is he probably thinks he is signing for thing he bought on Amazon.

Quote: missedhervee

It looks like Uncle Joe is preparing to issue massive pardons to preemptively stop Trump and his lackeys from going after his detractors.

Do it, Joe: stymie the oaf and his minions.

I’m generally against pardons. It is a slap in the face to the crime victims, to the hard working police/investigators/prosecutors who overcame ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’. It is disrespectful to the 12 jurors who took time out their busy lives to fulfill their civic duty. And it’s knee chop to the judge who imposed sentencing.

But I can’t blame Biden per se. He has that unlimited authority. I do not think a President should have that authority.

As far as MrV’s point, either you believe in the rule of law or you don’t. If Trump’s detractors committed crimes, you don’t think they should ‘be gone after’? Really? They will only be convicted, like any other criminals, if a prosecutor can present evidence to 12 of his or her peers, and prove the facts beyond a reasonable doubt. You against that concept?

Quote: SOOPOO

I’m generally against pardons. It is a slap in the face to the crime victims, to the hard working police/investigators/prosecutors who overcame ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’. It is disrespectful to the 12 jurors who took time out their busy lives to fulfill their civic duty. And it’s knee chop to the judge who imposed sentencing.

But I can’t blame Biden per se. He has that unlimited authority. I do not think a President should have that authority.

As far as MrV’s point, either you believe in the rule of law or you don’t. If Trump’s detractors committed crimes, you don’t think they should ‘be gone after’? Really? They will only be convicted, like any other criminals, if a prosecutor can present evidence to 12 of his or her peers, and prove the facts beyond a reasonable doubt. You against that concept?

Pardon's do have an ethical use. A marijuana-use crime had some severe punishments at one time. Under a 3 strikes laws, that final offense put people away for quite awhile. Prosecutors who put the person in jail sometimes change their minds with new evidence and support the person getting a pardon. As well as jurors.

When you have a whole bunch of reasons to pardon, why spend more money making the overtaxed justice system do backflips through hoops when you can pardon?

Quote: SOOPOO

I’m generally against pardons. It is a slap in the face to the crime victims, to the hard working police/investigators/prosecutors who overcame ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’. It is disrespectful to the 12 jurors who took time out their busy lives to fulfill their civic duty. And it’s knee chop to the judge who imposed sentencing.

Pardons are a kind of final check and balance. The do have a place.

Ford pardoned Nixon to tell the system to put it all in the past and move forward, something the country needed.

Carter pardoned the Vietnam draft dodgers for much the same reason.

Sometimes the "crime" had no victims and might not even be considered a "crime" anymore. Or it could be a conviction based on bad law or/and a DA abusing their power.

Abuse of pardons is checked by impeachment.