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May 24th, 2025 at 8:47:39 AM permalink
SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 5754	Quote: terapined1 Be honest. Which of these do you think would be different if we had President Harris? I think the only one ‘might’ be about the stock market, and that would be nothing more than a guess. I have no idea who is in charge of the ‘Epstein client list’.

May 24th, 2025 at 10:17:09 AM permalink

missedhervee

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Quote: SOOPOO
What every liberal misses is that if America (via its elected representatives) determines there is a need for more cow milkers it can allow LEGAL work visas for those wanting to come and milk cows! So send the illegal ones home, determine how many we need, and process the applications to have LEGAL cow milkers. I think the cow milkers here illegally would prefer to be here legally, without having to be constantly looking over their shoulders.

But don’t let those who snuck across the border jump the line over those presently trying to get here through legal channels. It can work. But only if you truly deport those here illegally.

Fair enough, but so far as I can tell the gov't is doing nothing to expedite the admission of new workers, they only seek removal of the workers already here illegally.

Who will take their place in the short and mid-term until such time, if ever, that a program is implemented to import needed "grunt" workers?

Don't delude yourself to think that entitled Americans will step up to pick fruit, hang sheet rock etc., especially for wages currently paid and acceptable to the illegals.

The underground illegal labor game has been "Don't ask, Don't tell" for decades and while flawed it has proven a viable way to get the dirty work done that Americans refuse to do.

May 24th, 2025 at 10:21:01 AM permalink

Evenbob

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Quote: SOOPOO
Quote: terapined1

Be honest. Which of these do you think would be different if we had President Harris? I think the only one ‘might’ be about the stock market, and that would be nothing more than a guess. I have no idea who is in charge of the ‘Epstein client list’.

No, the correct answer is show the same list 18 months from now. Not 122 days after somebody takes office. That's just stupid. Government works at a snail's pace 95% of the time expecting giant changes after 122 days is something a child would do. Trump did make huge changes at the border immediately but that was easy all he did was enforce existing laws. And people act like that's a big deal. He didn't have to change anything, he didn't have to get congress's permission, no new laws had to be passed. All the excuses Biden used as to why he could do nothing we're total BS. He just hired the agents they enforced the existing laws and slambo bambo problem solved.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

May 24th, 2025 at 10:28:21 AM permalink

GenoDRPh

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Quote: SOOPOO
Quote: terapined1

Be honest. Which of these do you think would be different if we had President Harris? I think the only one ‘might’ be about the stock market, and that would be nothing more than a guess. I have no idea who is in charge of the ‘Epstein client list’.

Donny ran specifically on a platform of correcting all these things. He has yet to deliver. Under a Harris administration, the market would be up and the risk of a recession would be lower than current. Ukraine would have continued US financial and material support, which could've meant more battlefield success. I make no comment on Israel/Gaza, out of respect for friends on both sides of that conflict.

"Epstein client list" is about as truthful and has about as much value as Joe McCarthy's list of 205 names.

May 25th, 2025 at 5:02:21 AM permalink

rxwine

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Trump wants us to pay just to challenge his orders. I'd like to know which idiots got that put in. Surely all the Repubs don't think that is a great idea.

If a Trump's EO is constitutional, why should he be concerned that it is paused? Only reason is to act like an unchecked tyrant.

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One paragraph, on pages 562 and 563 of the 1,116-page bill, raised alarms for reasons that have nothing to do with America's budget or safety-net programs or debt. That paragraph invokes a federal rule for civil court procedures, requiring anyone seeking an injunction or temporary restraining order to block an action by the Trump administration to post a financial bond.

Want to challenge Trump? Pay up, the provision said in a way that could make it financially prohibitive for Americans to contest Trump's actions in court.

Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of the University of California, Berkeley School of Law, called that "unprecedented."

"The greatest impact will be in preventing enforcement of all existing temporary restraining orders and preliminary injunctions if a bond has not been posted — and rarely were there bonds required," Chemerinsky wrote me in an email.

"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.

May 25th, 2025 at 6:00:24 AM permalink

AZDuffman

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Quote: rxwine
Trump wants us to pay just to challenge his orders. I'd like to know which idiots got that put in. Surely all the Repubs don't think that is a great idea.

If a Trump's EO is constitutional, why should he be concerned that it is paused? Only reason is to act like an unchecked tyrant.

Sounds like a smart idea. TDS crowd and deep state need to pay up for their little games.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength

May 25th, 2025 at 9:31:31 AM permalink
missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 160 Posts: 5504	Quote: AZDuffman Sounds like a smart idea. TDS crowd and deep state need to pay up for their little games. There should be no such fee / hurdle required in order to ask a court to weigh the constitutionality / legality of government action. Never in our history has such a thing even been foolishly proposed, but then, Trump has proven time and time again that he is the King of Fools.

May 25th, 2025 at 11:36:45 AM permalink

rxwine

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Great quote from the conservative CATO institute

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"I'll say this again, that Stephen Miller will go on Fox News and they'll say, they elected us to do this –– and that does not matter!' he continued. "Under our Constitution, elections do not change laws. They do not change our Constitution.

David Brier - Director of Immigration Studies

"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.

May 25th, 2025 at 11:50:17 AM permalink

AZDuffman

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Quote: missedhervee
There should be no such fee / hurdle required in order to ask a court to weigh the constitutionality / legality of government action.

Never in our history has such a thing even been foolishly proposed, but then, Trump has proven time and time again that he is the King of Fools.

There should absolutely be a fee to keep deep staters from filing lawsuits because they do not like the guy running things.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength

May 25th, 2025 at 1:42:56 PM permalink
missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 160 Posts: 5504	Quote: AZDuffman There should absolutely be a fee to keep deep staters from filing lawsuits because they do not like the guy running things. It cuts both ways, Einstein.

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