Israeli conflict

October 7th, 2024 at 3:46:29 PM permalink
DRich
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 57
Posts: 5896
Quote: Tanko
Columbia students, most getting a free ride, demonstrating against Israel today. One year after the attack.

Despite an $18 billion endowment, Columbia receives $1.2 billion a year in public funding from grants supposedly for 'research'.

Since the school doesn't have to spend it's own funds on research, these grants allow the school to spend more on tuition aid.

It normally costs $90,000 a year to attend Columbia, but most students receive a financial aid package of $74,000.

If their family's income is less than $150,000 tuition is free.


My daughter was offered a 90% tuition package to go to Columbia but New York City was a little too overwhelming for her.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
October 10th, 2024 at 6:44:00 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 30
Posts: 5257
Quote: Tanko
Columbia students, most getting a free ride, demonstrating against Israel today. One year after the attack.

Despite an $18 billion endowment, Columbia receives $1.2 billion a year in public funding from grants supposedly for 'research'.

Since the school doesn't have to spend it's own funds on research, these grants allow the school to spend more on tuition aid.

It normally costs $90,000 a year to attend Columbia, but most students receive a financial aid package of $74,000.

If their family's income is less than $150,000 tuition is free.


Sadly antisemitic propogandists have taken over many colleges, and many students view it as edgy without know anything on the subject.
October 11th, 2024 at 5:14:44 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
Threads: 76
Posts: 12501
Quote: Gandler
Quote: Tanko
Columbia students, most getting a free ride, demonstrating against Israel today. One year after the attack.

Despite an $18 billion endowment, Columbia receives $1.2 billion a year in public funding from grants supposedly for 'research'.

Since the school doesn't have to spend it's own funds on research, these grants allow the school to spend more on tuition aid.

It normally costs $90,000 a year to attend Columbia, but most students receive a financial aid package of $74,000.

If their family's income is less than $150,000 tuition is free.


Sadly antisemitic propogandists have taken over many colleges, and many students view it as edgy without know anything on the subject.

Protesting Israel is not anti semitism
Plenty of Jews protest against Israel
Especially the hard core ultra orthodox
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
October 11th, 2024 at 5:34:13 AM permalink
DRich
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 57
Posts: 5896
Quote: terapined

Protesting Israel is not anti semitism
Plenty of Jews protest against Israel
Especially the hard core ultra orthodox


Yes, people conflate Israeli politics with religion. One can clearly be against their politics without offending Jewish people.

Netanyahu is very much disliked in his own country. He is very controversial, kind of the way some people look at Trump here.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
October 11th, 2024 at 8:20:06 AM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 217
Posts: 22939
Quote: DRich
Yes, people conflate Israeli politics with religion. One can clearly be against their politics without offending Jewish people.

Netanyahu is very much disliked in his own country. He is very controversial, kind of the way some people look at Trump here.


Except Netanyahu is far from ignorant.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
October 11th, 2024 at 3:17:03 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
Threads: 76
Posts: 12501
Quote: DRich
Yes, people conflate Israeli politics with religion. One can clearly be against their politics without offending Jewish people.

Yup
Clearly it's intellectual lightweights that believe otherwise and Columbia students are certainly not intellectual lightweights
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
October 12th, 2024 at 5:35:33 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
Threads: 25
Posts: 5746
Quote: terapined
Yup
Clearly it's intellectual lightweights that believe otherwise and Columbia students are certainly not intellectual lightweights


As a Columbia grad I’d say many, but certainly not all, who are against Israel eliminating Hamas and Hezbollah are antisemitic. I firmly believe you are not antisemitic but are against Israel’s actions. Yesterday two Israeli civilians were killed by a missile launched from Lebanon. Should Israel not do EVERYTHING in its power to prevent more such attacks? If they know where it was launched from SHOULDNT they go into Lebanon and eliminate that building?
October 12th, 2024 at 6:34:27 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
Threads: 76
Posts: 12501
Quote: SOOPOO
As a Columbia grad I’d say many, but certainly not all, who are against Israel eliminating Hamas and Hezbollah are antisemitic. I firmly believe you are not antisemitic but are against Israel’s actions. Yesterday two Israeli civilians were killed by a missile launched from Lebanon. Should Israel not do EVERYTHING in its power to prevent more such attacks? If they know where it was launched from SHOULDNT they go into Lebanon and eliminate that building?

I value all life equally
When you look at the numbers , there is no comparison.
Israeli lives are not more valuable then Palestinian lives
Jewish lives are not more valuable then Muslim lives
All lives are equal in my eyes

I'm an atheist. Im not a zionist. The last thing I want to see are religious states regardless if it's Muslim or Jewish.

When looking at the numbers of deaths, there is no comparison.

How many people should die to avenge 2 civilian deaths. Will 100 satisfy you or are you demanding even more blood

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war#:~:text=As%20of%204%20October%202024,Protect%20Journalists%20and%20International%20Federation
As of 4 October 2024, over 43,000 people (41,802 Palestinian and 1,706 Israeli) have been reported as killed in the Israel–Hamas war, including 128-139 journalists and media workers (123-129 Palestinian, 2-4 Israeli, 3-5 Lebanese and 1 Syrian) according to Committee to Protect Journalists and International Federation ...
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
October 12th, 2024 at 7:14:09 AM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 217
Posts: 22939
People are questioning the amount of collateral damage in Israels approach to fighting the terrorists.

I don't have any problem with killing Hamas fighters themselves. Or Hezbollah as the case may be.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
October 12th, 2024 at 10:31:30 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
Threads: 25
Posts: 5746
Quote: terapined
I value all life equally
When you look at the numbers , there is no comparison.
Israeli lives are not more valuable then Palestinian lives
Jewish lives are not more valuable then Muslim lives
All lives are equal in my eyes

I'm an atheist. Im not a zionist. The last thing I want to see are religious states regardless if it's Muslim or Jewish.

When looking at the numbers of deaths, there is no comparison.

How many people should die to avenge 2 civilian deaths. Will 100 satisfy you or are you demanding even more blood

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war#:~:text=As%20of%204%20October%202024,Protect%20Journalists%20and%20International%20Federation
As of 4 October 2024, over 43,000 people (41,802 Palestinian and 1,706 Israeli) have been reported as killed in the Israel–Hamas war, including 128-139 journalists and media workers (123-129 Palestinian, 2-4 Israeli, 3-5 Lebanese and 1 Syrian) according to Committee to Protect Journalists and International Federation ...


That’s just not how life works. If Mexico launched missiles at San Diego, and killed 10 Americans, you think we should only take action until10 Mexicans are dead? No, we take action until we know Mexico can’t launch any more missiles! I’m not counting the number of dead Mexicans, I’m counting the number of saved Americans.

I’m not demanding ANY blood. I’m just demanding the mission be finished. First and foremost is returning the 100 or so hostages. I don’t care how many hostage holders and their collaborators are killed in trying to free those hostages. I’m demanding that not a single missile be launched from Gaza/Lebanon/Iran at Israel. If you could convince me of a different plan to accomplish those two things I’d be all for Israel accepting that peace.

I would hope the USA would act THE EXACT SAME WAY towards any country that attacked us like Israel was attacked.

You don’t want your people killed? Don’t commit a massacre, take hostages, and launch missiles at Israel. It’s quite simple.