General Election 2024

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October 13th, 2024 at 6:37:51 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: SOOPOO
NBC released its latest national poll results. I don’t think anyone would call NBC News a right biased organization. They have Trump and Harris tied at 48-48. When they allow for 3rd party candidates they actually have Trump up a point. For Trump to even be close to Harris in a national poll is a terribly poor news for the Dems. I forgot which source, but read Trump is ahead of Harris in MICHIGAN even after his stump speech making fun of Detroit! My local tax bill just came due. Big increase from last year. NYS totally Democrat controlled. (My area is slowly seeping to Democrat run). Just had my fall sprinkler service. Up 30% from last year. Snow plow contract came. Up 20% from last year. The Dems can shout from the roof how ‘inflation is slowing’ but the damage has already been done. America is aware of the disaster of Democrat policy fueled inflation.
If it wasn’t for the millions who will vote solely for a Democrat because of abortion, this would be a route like we’ve never seen. And that’s with the Republicans having a lying, felonious, aged, generally despicable candidate!


TLDR

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in 2012, at this same time, NBC had race tied, CBS had it +2 Obama, ABC had it +3 Obama. Obama won by 3.9%. This time NBC has race tied, CBS has Harris +3, ABC has Harris +2. Almost exactly the same as 2012.


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October 13th, 2024 at 6:52:19 PM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: ams288
TLDR


When ams says TLDR, what it really means is

‘I read every word. Twice.’

I’m not sure why Harris is getting harder to vote for as the race nears its conclusion. No ‘ah hah’ moments. No big news flash. No scandal uncovered. It’s not like her opponent is doing anything positive.

Can’t wait for this to be over so I can put full attention onto NBA. And golf game of course.
October 13th, 2024 at 7:00:04 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: SOOPOO
When ams says TLDR, what it really means is

‘I read every word. Twice.’


I would swear on anything that I didn’t read every word of your post. Not even once.

I find your political analyses to be very elementary and simple minded.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
October 13th, 2024 at 7:50:41 PM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: ams288
I would swear on anything that I didn’t read every word of your post. Not even once.

I find your political analyses to be very elementary and simple minded.


No one cares what you think. You must be aware of that? I’ve had enough compliments both here and on WoV to let me know, even amongst those that disagree with me, that my posts are neither very elementary nor simple minded. But insult as you see fit.
October 14th, 2024 at 2:55:37 AM permalink
DoubleGold
Member since: Jan 26, 2023
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Soetoro signed the propaganda law.

If you weren't aware of it, here it is:
https://commonsenseevaluation.com/2016/11/21/propaganda-on-the-us-public/



Without this basic understanding, even an intelligent person will believe almost anything, even election polls, if it's repeated enough.

There's a couple of Hitler quotes at the bottom that might open your eyes too.



It's not something a person can believe overnight or even over a year possibly.

But it might encourage further study.



It's very clear who believes the propaganda here.

They'll do everything in their power to continue to trust the Mockingbird.

The key is to be patient with the ones that don't realize it yet and not insult them.



One has to adjust for the Mockingbird because it can have an equal and opposite effect.

Meaning, the following can be propaganda also.

Definitely don't trust Musk neither but it looks pretty close to what I'm expecting.


Trump defeats Harris by landslide in Musk’s poll on X
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2024/08/22/trump-defeats-harris-by-landslide-in-musks-poll-on-x/



The difference of the two, is what the Mockingbird can fix, plus a little.
October 14th, 2024 at 5:08:29 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Posts: 5746
Trump is now slight favorite on Predictit. I’ll give anyone even money if they think Trump will win. I’m trying to figure out what odds to give that you would win if Trump wins even 1 of the ‘battleground’ states.
October 14th, 2024 at 5:35:42 AM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
Threads: 29
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Quote: SOOPOO
No one cares what you think. You must be aware of that? I’ve had enough compliments both here and on WoV to let me know, even amongst those that disagree with me, that my posts are neither very elementary nor simple minded. But insult as you see fit.


The fact that you don’t know how polling works is very simple minded. You think an NBC poll means it can’t be right-biased. THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS.

If a poll comes from NBC/CNN it doesn’t make it left-wing. If a poll comes from Fox it doesn’t mean it is a right-wing leaning poll. Every news org has a pollster they work with. They don’t slant any particular way at the behest of the news org.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
October 14th, 2024 at 6:16:13 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: SOOPOO
Trump is now slight favorite on Predictit. I’ll give anyone even money if they think Trump will win. I’m trying to figure out what odds to give that you would win if Trump wins even 1 of the ‘battleground’ states.


Bet Online. Trump -140. Harris +120
Bovada. Trump -135. Harris +115

I forget…. but is it illegal for Americans to make these bets?

Anyway, what do you Dems think Harris can/should do to turn this around? Or do you discount the betting sites?
October 14th, 2024 at 6:36:35 AM permalink
odiousgambit
Member since: Oct 28, 2012
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Quote: ams288
TLDR
I believe him

Ams believes in the philosophy of Goebbels and applies to himself. If he lies to himself often enough, it becomes the truth. If he reads an opposite point of view, that interferes with that.

as far as a poll showing it wrong, I see you didn't post the 2016 election polls with Hillary deemed to be a landslide
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October 14th, 2024 at 6:40:16 AM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: odiousgambit
as far as a poll showing it wrong, I see you didn't post the 2016 election polls with Hillary deemed to be a landslide


What are you even talking about?

Polls were wrong in 2016 and 2020 (underestimated GOP).

Polls were wrong in 2018 and 2022 (underestimated Dems).

I see a lot of righties think polls will always underestimate the GOP when Donny is on the ballot. They could be correct! Or they could be wrong post-Dobbs and in light of Donny’s dwindling stamina and coherence. We won’t know till after the votes are counted.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman