Supreme Court strikes down Roe v. Wade?

May 5th, 2022 at 11:58:15 AM permalink
missedhervee
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The funny thing is that the politicians against abortion are pretty much all men and as such the issue does not and can not concern them directly.

It is a galvnizing issue being co-opted to further political division and, so they hope, serve to keep them in power.

It has nothing to do with pregnant women, it's all about clinging to /attaining power.
May 5th, 2022 at 12:01:30 PM permalink
rxwine
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Is your pro-Life rep (if you have such) going to back the minimum penalty for conspiracy to commit murder and for murder when a women gets an illegal abortion?

If not, why not? You need to ask them why they can’t walk the walk? Plus, I think killing a “baby” would get you an actual death penalty if available.
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May 5th, 2022 at 1:08:57 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: missedhervee
The funny thing is that the politicians against abortion are pretty much all men and as such the issue does not and can not concern them directly.



That statement is rather meaningless in todays world. The left has told us now that men and ladies are the same, you can chose the one you want to be. From that view point how can any issue be a man's or ladies issue?
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
May 5th, 2022 at 1:16:16 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: kenarman
That statement is rather meaningless in todays world. The left has told us now that men and ladies are the same, you can chose the one you want to be. From that view point how can any issue be a man's or ladies issue?


Transexuals (man to woman) can not conceive, thus your hare-brained argument must fail.

I submit that the only ones with a real dog in this fight are women...real, biologically women at birth women.

But hey, nice try...keep grasping, that brass ring may not always elude your grasp.
May 5th, 2022 at 1:30:25 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: missedhervee
Transexuals (man to woman) can not conceive, thus your hare-brained argument must fail.

I submit that the only ones with a real dog in this fight are women...real, biologically women at birth women.

But hey, nice try...keep grasping, that brass ring may not always elude your grasp.


Conception happens when egg meets sperm. Who does that exclude? Might even be a cloned cell from anyone. If the embryo is then place into a surrogate mom does she have the right to abort? Sorry to make it so complicated I hope I didn't give you a headache I know this depth of thought is not what you are used to.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
May 5th, 2022 at 1:41:15 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
Transexuals (man to woman) can not conceive, thus your hare-brained argument must fail.

I submit that the only ones with a real dog in this fight are women...real, biologically women at birth women.


This would be considered a very transphobic statement by the lefties. Heck, in Portland they are putting tampon dispensers in the boys rooms of schools.
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May 5th, 2022 at 1:41:27 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: kenarman
Conception happens when egg meets sperm.


And a cancer starts to grow when triggered: so what?

Conception and carrying an unborn is a woman's issue, not a man's.

You want proof?

A man can not force a woman to abort; it is entirely her call, without exception.

And yes, a surrogate can abort if she wishes; there might or might not be a resultant breach of contract issue depending on the quality of the lawyer and the agreement the lawyer drew up in regards to the surrogacy but her body, her choice.

Any other questions or are you enjoying your petpetual bliss?
May 5th, 2022 at 2:22:08 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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If this is legit, this will be one of the biggest leaks of all time.


It already is a massive leak. It is a 98 page document.

Quote: New Yorker
The solemn ritual was supposed to have preceded the Supreme Court’s revelation from the bench of its decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the case about Mississippi’s ban on abortion after fifteen weeks of pregnancy. It still surely will, later this spring, but it will feel as if we’ve already been behind the curtain in Oz. On Monday, a leaked first-draft opinion by Justice Samuel Alito, writing for a majority, which was apparently circulated to all the Justices in February, was published by Politico. It states that the Court is overruling Roe v. Wade, which declared a constitutional right to an abortion, in 1973, and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, which reaffirmed Roe’s “central holding” under the Fourteenth Amendment’s due-process clause, in 1992.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/what-an-unprecedented-supreme-court-leak-says-about-the-future-of-abortion-and-about-precedent-itself
May 5th, 2022 at 4:15:51 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: missedhervee
And a cancer starts to grow when triggered: so what?


That is not what cancer is or what happens but like most lefties you don't let facts change you opinions. There is no such thing as a cancer cell. There are cells we call cancerous. They are human cells that have lost their way through mutation and no longer know when to die or when to stop multiplying.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
May 5th, 2022 at 4:47:57 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: kenarman
That is not what cancer is or what happens but like most lefties you don't let facts change you opinions. There is no such thing as a cancer cell. There are cells we call cancerous. They are human cells that have lost their way through mutation and no longer know when to die or when to stop multiplying.


Yes, the mutation causes them to lose their way and grow.

Like I said.