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December 26th, 2020 at 7:19:12 PM permalink
MadMath
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December 27th, 2020 at 12:20:11 AM permalink
OnceDear
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I did watch the videos and concluded that they are a mix of fruitbat crazies. That they get a platform to spew there nonsense is unfortunate, but the price we pay for free speech and a barely functional education system.
December 27th, 2020 at 3:12:44 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: OnceDear
I did watch the videos and concluded that they are a mix of fruitbat crazies. That they get a platform to spew there nonsense is unfortunate, but the price we pay for free speech and a barely functional education system.
Now why would you say that?

RNA editing done by AI ... microscopic Nanorobotics ... harmful 5G ... Nanobots in vaccine

I got that from the things to vote for ... I'm not watching the videos. A closed mind I guess.
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December 27th, 2020 at 4:22:56 AM permalink
OnceDear
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Quote: odiousgambit
Now why would you say that?

RNA editing done by AI ... microscopic Nanorobotics ... harmful 5G ... Nanobots in vaccine

I got that from the things to vote for ... I'm not watching the videos. A closed mind I guess.
This is anti-vax propaganda and that is my enemy. Know your enemy. Millions of open minded suckers do believe the conclusions of those liars, without any concept of what's going on in the foundational lies.
RNA editing done by AI.... Well, with a jumble of techy words like that, how could I resist. Besides, I didn't know how RNA editing is done. I still don't. I doubt Alex Jones's experts could suitably inform me.
Nanobots are obviously microscopic, or else they'd be milibots or centibots.
5G is harmful, in as much as, if you wrapped your legs around the top of the transmitter mast, the radiation could nuke your nuts.... eventually.
December 27th, 2020 at 4:30:27 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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I was making fun of the whole business by just repeating exactly what we were supposed to be buying

but you knew that ... maybe the OP knows it's crackpot

and you're also right, maybe it's not funny. People believe anything

'Nanobots in the vaccine' is my favorite
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December 27th, 2020 at 4:43:10 AM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
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Quote: odiousgambit
I was making fun of the whole business by just repeating exactly what we were supposed to be buying

but you knew that ... maybe the OP knows it's crackpot

and you're also right, maybe it's not funny. People believe anything

'Nanobots in the vaccine' is my favorite
The consequences are far from funny.
December 27th, 2020 at 7:17:00 AM permalink
MadMath
Member since: Dec 26, 2020
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Quote: OnceDear
The consequences are far from funny.


I think everyone misunderstands the point of this thread :/ So my friend David has sent me all of these links in emails. I swear on my friend's intelligence but the problem is I know for a fact that he doesn't know any more about the science behind these claims than I do. It's not just him but he now has a group of people that he talks about this exact subject, & what's even weirder is I think I'm more of a conspiracy theory plausible believer than he is!

Now I've got to admit when he 1st showed me this stuff I didn't know what to believe since this is so far from my area of expertise. But I definitely don't believe any of this! The issue is my beliefs aren't good enough to convince David.

Let me tell you a little bit about my friend. He is 1 of the top 10 backgammon players in the world & has made a living at advantage plays in every casino in the world. I've tried to get him to join WoV but he hates online conversations. The guy emails only to send me stuff to review & we talk on the phone every week. He constantly wants to bring up this subject every chance he gets.

But what's really concerning is that he is seriously planning on going out guns blazing if the US mandates the vaccine. He is a veteran & owns his own house in Reno. I've seen his living room, the man has a bunker in his living room with an M-2 flamethrower mounted on top with the gas tank behind the steal flare panels of the bunker. He has C-4 and told me he plans on replacing some of his bricks from the patio of his house with C-4 packs when the vaccine becomes mandatory. This shat has gone out of control & I need to find some way to prove to him that the vaccine is safe.

I don't want to hear your opinion unless you're an expert in one of the fields listed in the thread. Everyone said Copernicus was crazy, but that didn't make him wrong! I would love to see some facts cited that could disprove all of this because logic & reasoning are the only things that are going to work on David, he's retired & has a lot of free time on his hands :(
December 27th, 2020 at 7:30:22 AM permalink
odiousgambit
Member since: Oct 28, 2012
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"logic & reasoning are the only things that are going to work"

nope, I'd say he's too far gone

Perhaps he'll calm down if it isn't going to happen. In the past, has anything been universally mandatory? The smallpox vaccine, for example, was mandatory for kids going to public school, but I have to imagine it was voluntary for adults [whether or not any adult civilian had to get vaccinated on a mandatory basis is hard to find with a quick search, I just found]. Polio is still not eradicated, potentially still a threat anytime, but has anyone come around demanding you get vaccinated?
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December 27th, 2020 at 7:31:39 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: MadMath


I don't want to hear your opinion unless you're an expert in one of the fields listed in the thread. Everyone said Copernicus was crazy, but that didn't make him wrong! I would love to see some facts cited that could disprove all of this because logic & reasoning are the only things that are going to work on David, he's retired & has a lot of free time on his hands :(


(Quote clipped, relevance)

So, you want me to watch well over an hour of videos to be immediately followed by not offering my opinion on them? That's going to be a hard pass, sorry.

If I were you, I'd just explain to him that killing a bunch of people who had probably absolutely nothing (directly) to do with the vaccine being mandated is a highly illogical course of action. That failing, I think you'd pretty much have to report him if the vaccine does become mandated as you are aware of what he intends to do in that event.
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
December 27th, 2020 at 7:33:32 AM permalink
gamerfreak
Member since: Feb 19, 2018
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Quote: MadMath
I think everyone misunderstands the point of this thread :/ So I have a friend named David who has sent me all of these links in emails. I swear on my friend's intelligence but the problem is I know for a fact that he doesn't know any more about the science behind these claims than I do. It's not just him but has a group of people that he talks about this exact subject, & what's even weirder is I think I'm more of a conspiracy theory possible believer than he is!

Now I've got to admit when you 1st showed me this stuff I didn't know what to believe since this is so far from my area of expertise. But I definitely don't believe any of this! The issue is my beliefs aren't good enough to convince David.

Let me tell you a little bit about my friend. He is 1 of the top 10 backgammon players in the world & has made a living at advantage players in every casino in the world. I've tried to get him to join WoV but he hates online conversations. The guy emails only to send me stuff to review & we talk on the phone every week. He constantly wants to bring up this subject every chance he gets.

But what's really concerning is that he is seriously planning on going out guns blazing if the US mandates the vaccine. He is a veteran & owns his own house in Reno. I've seen his living room, the man has a bunker in his living room with an M-2 flamethrower mounted on top with the gas tank behind the steal flare panels of the bunker. He has C-4 and told me he plans on replacing some of his bricks from the patio of his house with C-4 packs when the vaccine becomes mandatory. This shat has gone out of control & I need to find some way to prove to him that the vaccine is safe.

I don't want to hear your opinion unless you're an expert in one of the fields listed in the thread. Everyone said Copernicus was crazy, but that didn't make him wrong! I would love to see some facts cited that could improve all of this because logic & reasoning are the only things that are going to work on David, he's retired & has a lot of free time on his hands :(

SOOPOO is the only MD on the forum (I think) and he is going to tell you to take the vaccine.

Like your friend, not all anti-vaxxers and stupid Facebook crayon-eaters like people make them out to be. A guy a work with is a very accomplished engineer, probably the top 10% in his field, and he refuses to vaccinate his children.

I don’t think the Covid vaccine is going to be mandatory, at least not federally.

I completely think it’s reasonable to be skeptical of a rushed vaccine that is the first ever to use mRNA technology. But the more I have been researching it the more comfortable I am.
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