Black Lies Matter

September 24th, 2020 at 8:43:37 PM permalink
rxwine
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The problem with "Black Lives Matter" is the difference between the notion that black lives matter (every sane person agrees with that) and the political organization "Black Lives Matter". Many people conflate the two. The political group (I will use BLM for brevity's sake to refer to the political group), has many poorly constructed policy ideas and supports many questionable people who were "murdered" (often not when you actually do the research) by police.

Also, BLM supports defunding the police. Don't take my word for it, read it on their site:
https://blacklivesmatter.com/defundthepolice/

Its simply a divisive organization that causes for divides (not just racially) than we need right now. Again, they are funded by groups that want to see America divided.

You are an intelligent and well-rounded man. Look at BLM's site overall:
https://blacklivesmatter.com/

You don't even need to do extensive research outside (though I would encourage it), they have a lot of wonky ideas and support a lot of questionable people and movements. This is not by accident. BLM is funded in a way to be as polarizing as possible. BLM is funded by Islamic extremists, communists groups, and Russian money (the same money that funds alt-right trolls). Ask yourself what do all of these have in common? Virtually nothing, except the desire to see America become weaker and more divided.


I'm not endorsing BLM, but I will certainly give them more time and see how they evolve. Plenty of groups get off to imperfect starts. MLK was trying to run a peaceful group and Hoover was trying to infiltrate and frame him. In order to get support and funds you sometimes partner with people who have different interests. That tendency is true of America and its major interests. We've got in bed with nearly every bad character at one time or another.

Can you name any group with any significant history that doesn't have controversy. Sometimes serious controversy. The Boy Scouts, the Catholic Church, The NRA. Planned parenthood gets blasted for Sangers eugenics and racism.

Maybe you see the future Black Panthers or Nation of Islam. Or a red scare. I don't...yet. Our Constitution wasn't a perfect document either.
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September 25th, 2020 at 3:16:10 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
I'm not endorsing BLM, but I will certainly give them more time and see how they evolve. Plenty of groups get off to imperfect starts.


BLM has been going on for what, almost 10 years now? Still rioting, looting, and harassing white people who are minding their own business. How much time before you admit they are what they are?
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September 25th, 2020 at 8:47:11 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
BLM has been going on for what, almost 10 years now? Still rioting, looting, and harassing white people who are minding their own business. How much time before you admit they are what they are?


There are plenty of supporters like Terapined who never rioted at any Blm event.
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September 25th, 2020 at 9:09:18 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
There are plenty of supporters like Terapined who never rioted at any Blm event.


What does that have to do with BLM being a racist, socialist, violent organization?

If he wants to support that it is his business.
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September 25th, 2020 at 9:31:19 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
What does that have to do with BLM being a racist, socialist, violent organization?

If he wants to support that it is his business.


Then why doesn’t’ our state department list it as a domestic terrorist group? And why do they allow federal employees to wear insignia on days like celebrating the end of slavery?
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September 25th, 2020 at 9:43:15 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Then why doesn’t’ our state department list it as a domestic terrorist group? And why do they allow federal employees to wear insignia on days like celebrating the end of slavery?


Because they get a pass for PC reasons. Easy to see that.

Easier to see the violence they cause.
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September 25th, 2020 at 9:54:33 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
Because they get a pass for PC reasons. Easy to see that.

Easier to see the violence they cause.


Singling out wrongdoers from large groups has never been your strong point, mr ‘it’s fine to ban entire Muslim countries’ rather than look for actual terrorists.
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September 25th, 2020 at 10:01:49 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Singling out wrongdoers from large groups has never been your strong point, mr ‘it’s fine to ban entire Muslim countries’ rather than look for actual terrorists.


Follow what BLM does and calls for. I am not interested in saying, "well, this member is bad, this one not quite as much." Similar to entire muslim countries that are a threat as a whole. This is the real world, not a 6th grade social studies class.

BLM is harassing white diners, blocking traffic, and rioting nationwide. That is what BLM is. A person who says they support BLM is supporting this kind of behavior.
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September 25th, 2020 at 10:11:39 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
Follow what BLM does and calls for. I am not interested in saying, "well, this member is bad, this one not quite as much." Similar to entire muslim countries that are a threat as a whole. This is the real world, not a 6th grade social studies class.

BLM is harassing white diners, blocking traffic, and rioting nationwide. That is what BLM is. A person who says they support BLM is supporting this kind of behavior.


Not sorting the innocent from the guilty is 6th grade intelligence.
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September 25th, 2020 at 10:20:20 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Not sorting the innocent from the guilty is 6th grade intelligence.


So, you are saying a person who just goes to KKK meetings is not supporting what the KKK stands for if they just go to meetings and nothing else?

Had this conversation with the liberals on here so many times over the years. In 1942 we did not separate "good Germans" from Germany. Ditto any large group. You have to be a grown-up about it.

BLM is racist, socialist, and violent. If you fall in with them then it has to be assumed you support that. Simple as that.
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