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May 18th, 2020 at 11:54:46 AM permalink
kewlj
Member since: Apr 6, 2013
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Quote: rxwine
I suppose they could ask people to take a cool-off period and have their temp retaken, but I'd have to assume that would create massive delays.


There are other issues as well. Someone sick with a fever, say, 100.8 would probably be taking ibuprofen or some other common fever reducing medication which would knock the fever down (artificially) and make them feel better (temporarily) just as the medicine is supposed to do, so they ,ight register 99 degrees and be admitted. But these people would still be just as sick and contagious. I just think there are problems with this.

A couple weeks ago I was seeing stories on the national news that one way to reopen would be to have people that had the virus and recovered show some sort of paperwork. My immediate reaction was really? we are going to be a country where you have to show your paperwork to go in a casino or grocery store? Then you open the door to counterfeit medical paperwork. ??

There has been less talk of this 'show your paperwork' ideas since at the moment they are less sure having had the virus really offers any protection. Plus the antibody tests which would indicate some period of immunity aren't all that reliable at the moment.

Just some of these ideas are pretty irrational.
May 18th, 2020 at 1:20:28 PM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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kewlj, I have posted a lot on the folly that taking the temperature is, before your return here. My B in Law had COVID-19, would wake up febrile and sick every day, take a tylenol to knock out the fever, which it did. He could have easily went to a casino fully infectious if he wanted to. There are a large percent of those infected that are assymptomatic. They slip through as well. Some people do not mount as rigorous a febrile response to an illness. You could be very sick at 100 even. Some start with a decreased normal body temp, the elderly specifically, and at 99 are already febrile. This doesn't even include the inaccuracies in the testing machine.
Whichever 'expert' recommended temperature taking as an entryway device is a total fool.
May 18th, 2020 at 1:52:21 PM permalink
petroglyph
Member since: Aug 3, 2014
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Maybe some good will come from this pandemic? I even posted about people not washing their hands after relieving themselves at casinos, years back on wov. Also mentioned years back that they should have mounted these hand sanitizers in casinos to. I would have bought at least the first one to get it started. Even remarked to pit bosses about how sticky the chips were.

What would have been the contamination/death rate for H1N1, Swine flu etc. if people had been using these decontamination procedures and hand sanitizer back then? Maybe restaurants and public places will pay more attention to having soap in soap dispensers and not letting them run out? How many times have you been in a restaurant bathroom and go to wash your paws before eating, only to find there's no soap? Some joints are notorious for it. We've talked here before about how clean McDonald's restrooms are, that is the reason I would stop at them, not for the food. But Mc'd's uses those fart blowers for hand drying. Learn to grab a few napkins on your way in to the can.

I am one of the people who's normal body temp is 97.1 on average. I noticed it for years having had my temp taken a lot. When staff would read 98.6 they would check the box that said "normal", or even at 98.9, when I was actually feeling like crap.
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May 18th, 2020 at 1:59:13 PM permalink
RonC
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Quote: SOOPOO
Whichever 'expert' recommended temperature taking as an entryway device is a total fool.


Just like the TSA and the problems with how they do things, sometimes it is about "doing things" rather than actually getting anything done.
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May 18th, 2020 at 2:07:28 PM permalink
terapined
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May 18th, 2020 at 3:24:01 PM permalink
Wishuponacomet
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May 18th, 2020 at 3:47:30 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: terapined


Frankly, I think hes lying. I doubt hes actually taking it.
A straight man will not go for kids. - AZDuffman
May 18th, 2020 at 3:54:53 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: ams288
Frankly, I think hes lying. I doubt hes actually taking it.


Interesting dilemma he put his doctor in.....

If Trump is lying, imagine how much fun answering this question will be....

Dr. Abcde, why did you prescribe hydroxychloroquine to the President?

If Trump is telling the truth, how much fun will this question be for the Dr.?

Dr. Abcde, why did you prescribe hydroxychloroquine to the President?
May 18th, 2020 at 4:02:40 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: ams288
Frankly, I think hes lying. I doubt hes actually taking it.

I think he is lying also. He's saying this because science determined he was wrong on this drug and this is how Trump fights back saying science is wrong instead.
Its shocking that some people on the right just can't see the insanity of Trump.
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May 18th, 2020 at 4:04:55 PM permalink
Dalex64
Member since: Mar 8, 2014
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I heard he is getting half of a typical dose. That may or may not be "medically effective" (below the minimum effective dose) and free from risks and side effects, and if it is inneffective in that regard, his doctor may have prescribed it just so Trump feels safer and better and will stop bugging him about it.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan