Democratic debates

Quote: Evenbob

They don't grasp that if the US
it to remain vital, the average
person has to be allowed to
succeed in a spectacular fashion
if he wants to. Constantly
threatening to take what he's
earned and give to those who
want to sit around doing nothing
has a detrimental effect on
wanting to succeed.

They think wealth just magically appears from the government and can be created at will.

Quote: Evenbob

They don't grasp that if the US
it to remain vital, the average
person has to be allowed to
succeed in a spectacular fashion
if he wants to. Constantly
threatening to take what he's
earned and give to those who
want to sit around doing nothing
has a detrimental effect on
wanting to succeed.

How do you reconcile this with the fact that the last great leap forward the US did was with many of the high-tax-rates-on-your-hundredth-million-type plans being discussed?

Is going from a baby to having $50mm by age 50 not "succeeding in spectacular fashion"?

Is being able to make "only" 7-8 figures "detrimental"?

IMO, it's only detrimental to those hungry for power, and there's not a demographic in existence that needs a kick in the balls more than they. Considering all the unscrupulous moves to get money into politics, it is beyond due. It is duty.

I'm also curious as to why YOU care. Been tellin' ya all along to ditch your TV and BS 24hr news. Now you're all ramped up about poors getting $1k a month while the .coms pilfer billions right out of your pocket due to laundering, lobbying, and all sorts of BS you and I are not allowed to do. I really am dying to know why no one ever mentions this stuff, especially you righties who are always concerned about others getting your s#$%.

Not confrontational at all, I'm genuinely curious. Both because it appears to me that there's stuff you're not aware of, as well as wondering what YOU know that I'M not aware of.

Quote: Face

I'm also curious as to why YOU care. Been tellin' ya all along to ditch your TV and BS 24hr news. Now you're all ramped up about poors getting $1k a month while the .coms pilfer billions right out of your pocket due to laundering, lobbying, and all sorts of BS you and I are not allowed to do. I really am dying to know why no one ever mentions this stuff, especially you righties who are always concerned about others getting your s#$%.

What are they pilfering out of my pocket? Well, there are subsidies to Tesla buyers I guess. But for the most part, private companies do not take a dollar I did not want to give them in exchange for something. OTOH, the "$1,000 for everyone" will come out of my pocket at the point of a gun.

Quote: Face

Now you're all ramped up about poors getting $1k a month.

Ramped up, hardly. It's a joke
to be laughed at, nobody but
the poor think it will really
happen. And they probably
don't believe it either.Even
the people pushing it know
it would never work. They
tried it in Norway and it
almost bankrupted them.

Quote: SOOPOO

I'm not laughing at all. There are 8 who want to punish the makers. Only Biden and Klobuchar even have a clue. The rest are anti capitalism, anti success at their core. Sadly, there are enough American voters in the taker group that one of the 8 will likely prevail.

I was just watching a 60 minutes episode I had recorded about NYU medical school providing free tuition. What do you think of that?

Quote: rxwine

I was just watching a 60 minutes episode I had recorded about NYU medical school providing free tuition

The only way it could be 'free' is
if the school didn't pay the teachers.
That isn't happening so it's not free,
somebody is paying.

Quote: Evenbob

The only way it could be 'free' is
if the school didn't pay the teachers.

That's also what cracks me up when libbies always proclaim that health care is a "right". I'm sorry, but nobody has a "right" to somebody else's labor.

Why the hell would anyone want to become a doctor only to have a bunch of liberal cockroaches get in their face and demand that they treat them?? 🙄

Quote: Evenbob

The only way it could be 'free' is
if the school didn't pay the teachers.
That isn't happening so it's not free,
somebody is paying.

Yes, they didn't just get money out of thin air, Captain Obvious. But it's still free tuition to the medical students.

Quote: rxwine

I was just watching a 60 minutes episode I had recorded about NYU medical school providing free tuition. What do you think of that?

In general I would be against it if taxpayer dollars were involved. But if a private entity wanted to pay the tuition instead of the student I have no problem with that. Poorer students (like I was) now already do not pay full tuition. I got some financial aid, some loans too. It seemed quite fair to me. I never expected not to pay anything.

I do think it will of course give NYU a big advantage in getting the best college students to want to go there.

Quote: rxwine

But it's still free tuition to the medical students.

Only if it's paid for with private
funds, which is unlikely to last
very long.