Democratic Nominee in 2020

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February 14th, 2020 at 4:33:23 PM permalink
Shrek
Member since: Aug 13, 2019
Threads: 2
Posts: 509
Quote: AZDuffman
Are you really naive enough to think everyone will be "equal" under such a plan?

Unfortunately, I think he is. 🙄
February 14th, 2020 at 5:46:46 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 10
Posts: 785
Quote: AZDuffman
Only if you want to be a serf to the government.

Are you really naive enough to think everyone will be "equal" under such a plan?

Why on earth would you trust a government that has treated people the way ours has?


How has our government treated us worse than any other?


I would argue America is far more transparent than most countries (in many cases too transparent).


But, yes, the VA is a great example. Yes, the care and wait-times in some cases leaves something to be desired (but be careful of media stories, many are blown out of proportion).
But, everyone is treated the same, and nobody treatment and appointments are based off of need and scheduling. It does not matter if you are a 3-star General or a PFC on VA. You get treated the same, wait the same, and go through the same process.

So the idea that America does not already have an equalized healthcare system for a set of the population (eligible veterans) where everyone regardless of status, rank, etc.... gets treated the same is false. It works for the VA.


And, before you say "well the VA sucks" its not as bad as many think.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths/five-myths-about-va-health-care/2018/04/13/e5834d1e-3d9a-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html
“wait times at the VA for new patient primary and specialty care are shorter than wait times reported in focused studies of the private sector.”


Canada has a similar system, where there is government insurance and government clinics and hospitals, but also private facilities that you can go to if you need to (which you may or may not be able to use government insurance for, but you can always get supplemental insurance.) Essentially like VA coverage for everyone (VA you should use their facilities, but you can go elsewhere either on their insurance if approved or with your own).
February 14th, 2020 at 6:27:50 PM permalink
petroglyph
Member since: Aug 3, 2014
Threads: 22
Posts: 4671
"If Democrats don't want foreigners involved in our elections, why do they think it's all right for illegals to vote?"
Everyone gets thrown from the plane to maintain altitude
February 14th, 2020 at 6:30:39 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 10
Posts: 785
Quote: petroglyph
"If Democrats don't want foreigners involved in our elections, why do they think it's all right for illegals to vote?"


I don't think that most Democrats think that.
February 14th, 2020 at 6:57:27 PM permalink
KNathan
Member since: Dec 9, 2018
Threads: 37
Posts: 546
Did Kamala Harris drop out? On the Politics Subsection on another website, Kamala is no longer listed as a Candidate. Hmm.
February 14th, 2020 at 7:18:51 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 10
Posts: 785
Quote: KNathan
Did Kamala Harris drop out? On the Politics Subsection on another website, Kamala is no longer listed as a Candidate. Hmm.


Like three months ago.

Late November or Early December, somewhere around there.
February 14th, 2020 at 9:19:27 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 135
Posts: 20053
Quote: Gandler

It's actually a pretty good phrase.
.


No, it's a meaningless catch-all
phrase that means anything you
want it to mean. That's why
Bland ButtCrack said it. It
means one thing to a
transgender and something
else to a KKK/White Supremicist.
The last thing The Crack wants
to do is define himself. take a
position. He'd rather be the
weebly wobbly centrist masking
his extreme Left leaning views.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 15th, 2020 at 1:20:10 AM permalink
KNathan
Member since: Dec 9, 2018
Threads: 37
Posts: 546
Quote: Gandler
Like three months ago.

Late November or Early December, somewhere around there.


Thank you for answering my question. I had a feeling that she dropped out due to her no longer being listed as a Candidate. I wonder what caused her to drop out.
February 15th, 2020 at 2:33:03 AM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 135
Posts: 20053
Creepy porn lawyer Michael Avenatti was found guilty
on all counts in the New York court system yesterday.
Now he has to go to California where he will be convicted
on all counts there. Does this mean he probably won't
be the Democrat nominee? I just watched montages CNN
and MSNBC gushing over Avenatti and his chances of being
president. Very entertaining.


If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 15th, 2020 at 3:34:34 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 124
Posts: 11598
Quote: Gandler

How has our government treated us worse than any other?


Ask an Indian. Ask one of the military who swan in radioactive water during nuclear tests. Ask someone who had some land the government wanted. Ask someone who owned senior debt of GM in 2009. Ask someone who was traveling with "too much cash" and had it taken at the airport.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it