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Easter: Message of Jesus?
| April 14th, 2020 at 1:43:48 PM permalink | |
| pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | Probably Moses wrote it as an editor using material written by Adam himself and Abraham plus other writings that were preserved on clay tablets and papyrus paper by other individuals. Moses also wrote directly of his own experiences salted with inspiration from God himself. That is the answer plain and simple. |
| April 14th, 2020 at 2:36:30 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Because when you believe in some silly god, you blame him for everything. It stops you from having to think for yourself. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| April 14th, 2020 at 2:40:22 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Yeah, no. Bible historians now say Moses never existed, he's a myth. Like the stories of the Red Sea opening, and locusts, and first born dying in Egypt, and the Jews wandering for 40 years. It's all made up stories. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| April 14th, 2020 at 4:26:45 PM permalink | |
| pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | Probably Moses wrote it as an editor using material written by Adam himself and Abraham plus other writings that were preserved on clay tablets and papyrus paper by other individuals. Moses also wrote directly of his own experiences salted with inspiration from God himself. That is the answer plain and simple. |
| April 14th, 2020 at 5:11:01 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Why I think that is a big question with a lot of things that led to my belief. Rest assured they are all reasonable. A made up story doesn't have the impact and historical, scientific, and archeological support that the Bible has. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| April 14th, 2020 at 5:18:47 PM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4177 |
Sorry to sound like Bob, but that answer is just mumbo-jumbo. As I've said in most of my religion discussions, those that believe in God do so because of something not explainable. When they try and explain 'faith' to a rational person, they always fail. If you described any of the major religions to a psychiatrist, and he was just listening to the facts, he would conclude that any believer was insane. You can deny it all you wish. Keep doing all the good things you do for people, and it really doesn't matter if there is a God or there isn't. |
| April 14th, 2020 at 5:20:14 PM permalink | |
| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4256 |
The bible has no archaeological support. (Unless you loosely mean archeological support for certain places mentioned at various points, which is virtually meaningless....) And minimal historical support, other than some primary source documents confirming that some people in the bible may have existed, at some time. But, no historical support of any of the claims that would support it being the word of God. The Koran, actually has more historical support. (Thanks to the violent history of the religion forcing it to spread and be historically relevant). Having some historical truths does not make a book the word of God. Almost, every fiction book I enjoy (most classics) contain historical truths, that does not mean the main premise is factual or the narrative relevant to how to live your life. |
| April 14th, 2020 at 6:15:55 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | SOOPOO: Remember there a lot of things that we both believe on faith and trust in something that is not explainable. Faith to a rational person makes perfect sense, we need it to live our lives and function. Blind faith doesn't make sense to a rational person because it is not rational. Or a faith that doesn't really matter if it's true or not will never make sense to a rational person like yourself. If you continue to believe that if there is a God doesn't really matter then I think there is nothing to say, except this; believing that it doesn't matter if God exists or not doesn't sound like the thinking of the rational and reasonable person you are. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| April 14th, 2020 at 8:44:07 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
What part of 'Moses was a myth' don't you understand. Even the Jewish Torah historians admit that Moses never existed, he's a made up character. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| April 14th, 2020 at 9:03:00 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Of course it's rational and reasonable. What possible difference does it make if a god exists or doesn't. I can't tell a persons belief's by looking at them, unless they're wearing religious symbols. I can't look at their lifestyle, there are just as many successful atheists as god believers. I can't tell by their moral choices, atheists are some of the most moral people I know. It's been proven that god people praying for the sick doesn't work and it has the same effect on the patient as the atheist not praying. The only way a god matters is if you choose to play the Parker Bros board game, Xtianity. Where you advance around the board, doing everything just right, and maybe, just maybe, you get some kind of reward after you die. Life is too short to be wasted on such nonsense. That's the logical and reasonable conclusion. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |