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The Trump implosion thread!
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| April 30th, 2020 at 8:56:24 AM permalink | |
| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11826 |
He's disgusting I would never ever chant "Lock her up" regarding the former Secretary of State Its disgusting and un-American. Its the chant from a banana republic I don't like Trump but I would never yell "lock him up". Its against everything I stand for. I believe in a fair justice system. NOBODY SHOULD BE LOCKED UP SIMPLY DUE TO POLITICS Yet that's what Flynn believes. Flynn has no ethics Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
| April 30th, 2020 at 9:03:46 AM permalink | |
| RonC Member since: Nov 7, 2012 Threads: 8 Posts: 2510 |
So people that disgust you do not deserve the full protections provided to them by the constitution and laws of the land? He can disgust you and not be guilty of a crime at the same time. Just to make sure everyone understands...I am not saying that he is not guilty at this point. He is guilty until the plea is overturned, abandoned, or whatever legal actions happen. He is still guilty if he gets a pardon that ends court action in his case. I am saying that evidence is being brought out that may be enough to overturn his plea and provide a new trial or even no trial at all. Surely liberals and conservatives (and others) can agree that the process should protect people against abuses and overreach by government. |
| April 30th, 2020 at 9:17:02 AM permalink | |
| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11826 |
I agree Trump disgusts me yet I would never demand to lock him up. He deserve the full protections provided to him by the constitution and laws of the land. There is a huge difference between me and Trump supporters like Flynn Flynn believes people should be locked up simply due to politics I disagree with Flynn. He and all Americans (Trump and Hillary included) deserve the full protections provided by the constitution and laws of the land. If he is found guilty or pleads guilty, then lock him up :-) Bottom line, Flynn is a disgraceful American insisting we as a country bypass constitutional protections by demanding Hillary be locked up. In my book, a General against the constitution is a traitor Yea the FBI had a hard time going after Flynn He's a Patriot, hard to go after people like that but He got dirty trying to help Trump. Ying yang. He's a good guy and a bad guy. FBI was conflicted but in the end, did the right thing. You are a patriot most of your life does not give you a pass to get dirty and lie for Trump Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
| April 30th, 2020 at 9:45:45 AM permalink | |
| ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12582 |
lol I’m not sure who Flynn’s lawyers were/are, but I’d be willing to go out on a limb and say he wasn’t assigned some crappy public defender... He knew what he was doing. “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
| April 30th, 2020 at 9:53:16 AM permalink | |
| RonC Member since: Nov 7, 2012 Threads: 8 Posts: 2510 |
Even good, expensive (some may be only one of those things) lawyers can screw up. I get it; no need for further discussion since your position is that he gets no further due process and I think that it should play out and we can go from there. Your position comes down to this: If someone enters a guilty plea, they are guilty and that is it. It does not matter what the government did to get there. They deserve no further protection and should be sent to jail. |
| April 30th, 2020 at 9:53:22 AM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 | Scott Adams got into a laughing fit this morning over how much material he's getting for future Dilbert cartoons from the Flynn papers being released. One of them is a lawyers note from an FBI about Flynn. The lawyer is making notes to himself that say things like, why are we here, to set Flynn up, or to catch him in a lie so we can prosecute him. Adams is imagining Clapper or Brennan or whoever gleefully thinking how they're gonna get away with all this and there's a clown lawyer taking down damning evidence in notes to himself. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| April 30th, 2020 at 10:02:17 AM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18826 |
I thought he plead guilty without legal counsel. FBI lying to him to fool him is the same thing done to people everyday to get admission of guilt. It's not illegal. People crying because he didn't know his rights and he got fooled is the same thing that happens everyday to lots of people. Maybe they can dismiss it because they did something wrong with the court. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| April 30th, 2020 at 10:46:00 AM permalink | |
| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11826 |
Pretty much unless somebody held a gun to your head That's pretty much how the real world works. That's why lawyers almost always advise not to plead guilty regardless how bad the evidence looks. What is AOS opinion on the guilty verdict, him being a lawyer. Curious. Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
| April 30th, 2020 at 2:33:53 PM permalink | |
| Shrek Member since: Aug 13, 2019 Threads: 6 Posts: 1635 |
Damn, this is what SOOPOO just did to the libbie! 🤣🤣  |
| April 30th, 2020 at 2:39:54 PM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4190 |
Thanks Mr. Shrek! Next time find the finishing move of Neville (was in WWE a few years back) Way more elegant! |