The Trump implosion thread!

Quote: AZDuffman

This is the kind of thinking that destroys institutions. “He gets results but he did not go to the right school/have the right family/drive the right car/any meaningless blue blood requirement.”

Open your eyes, AZ. I am not talking about DJT not being a blue blood. I am talking about him being a jerk, no matter what class he is from. He tries to make himself look big by making others look small. He can't let his achievements speak for themselves; he has to denigrate those that question him. I don't like these traits in our President. I guess we will have to disagree. I like good results, but good results are not the only thing that matters.
Remember, I AGREE with you that he has moved the country forward better than HRC would have. I AGREE with you that the country would be better off with him than any of the extreme left Democrats. But I ALSO want a President that doesn't act like a child. I want a President that isn't banging a porn star while his wife is pregnant. I want a President that is smart enough to not need to put up foreign dignitaries at his hotels. I want a President that doesn't appoint DOZENS of officials that are now convicted criminals.
AZ, you and I agree on many topics.... need for strong borders, not overturning an election because of dislike for the winner, reasonableness in our progressive tax system, and we can both support a good many of our president's policies...... I just think you lose lots of credibility when you defend the man himself.

Quote: SOOPOO

Open your eyes, AZ. I am not talking about DJT not being a blue blood. I am talking about him being a jerk, no matter what class he is from. He tries to make himself look big by making others look small. He can't let his achievements speak for themselves; he has to denigrate those that question him. I don't like these traits in our President. I guess we will have to disagree. I like good results, but good results are not the only thing that matters.
Remember, I AGREE with you that he has moved the country forward better than HRC would have. I AGREE with you that the country would be better off with him than any of the extreme left Democrats. But I ALSO want a President that doesn't act like a child. I want a President that isn't banging a porn star while his wife is pregnant. I want a President that is smart enough to not need to put up foreign dignitaries at his hotels. I want a President that doesn't appoint DOZENS of officials that are now convicted criminals.
AZ, you and I agree on many topics.... need for strong borders, not overturning an election because of dislike for the winner, reasonableness in our progressive tax system, and we can both support a good many of our president's policies...... I just think you lose lots of credibility when you defend the man himself.

The thing is he does not attack people unless they attack him. I’m tired of the attitude that a Republican has to just “take it” and lose standing and credibility as lies are told about him. He does have a bit more bombast than I find ideal but that is his brand. To me the left has acted like children for decades now.

The pendulum has begun its swing back to sanity.

Quote: AZDuffman

The thing is he does not attack people unless they attack him. I’m tired of the attitude that a Republican has to just “take it” and lose standing and credibility as lies are told about him. He does have a bit more bombast than I find ideal but that is his brand. To me the left has acted like children for decades now.

Exactly!

It was pathetic watching Bush, Romney, and McCain just stand pat while libbies gleefully rolled right over them. I remember thinking to myself, if these guys don't want to defend themselves, then why the hell should anyone else defend them?!

It's great to see somebody actually fight back and fight back hard. Libbies aren't used to someone standing up for themselves. 😂😂

Looks like the Trumpians have come up with a way to invalidate various regulations in public health, and it's retroactive affecting decade old policies.

They are invalidating studies based on patient confidentiality agreements on the basis that the agreements make replication impossible. Of course getting people to agree to studies sometimes depends on confidentiality. The way around it is to go through and redact certain info, but that fix would cost multi-millions, so it will never happen.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/epa-to-limit-science-used-to-write-public-health-rules/ar-BBWBUCM?ocid=spartanntp

Quote: rxwine

Looks like the Trumpians have come up with a way to invalidate various regulations in public health, and it's retroactive affecting decade old policies.

They are invalidating studies based on patient confidentiality agreements on the basis that the agreements make replication impossible. Of course getting people to agree to studies sometimes depends on confidentiality. The way around it is to go through and redact certain info, but that fix would cost multi-millions, so it will never happen.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/epa-to-limit-science-used-to-write-public-health-rules/ar-BBWBUCM?ocid=spartanntp

Getting rid of junk science is a good thing. TRUMP 2020!

Interesting
Hard core conservatives are against Donald Trump JR

Why alt-right trolls shouted down Donald Trump Jr.
The “Groyper Army” and the war over college campus conservatism, explained.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/11/11/20948317/alt-right-donald-trump-jr-conservative-tpusa-yaf-racism-antisemitism?fbclid=IwAR0tYbVx5r9A2IstC-YnmPGreOO2rpjP9B8z5akes-c3rlULGOovUq-Sxfg

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/huge-schiff-witness-vindham-testified-that-he-thought-presidents-policy-was-wrong-so-he-advised-ukrainians-to-ignore-the-president/

If this is indeed what happened, a US military officer, with the means, undermines the POTUS and advises a foreign head of state against the intents of the president, doesn't that seem illegal?

I wouldn't care who was in office, I don't want state dept. underlings going around and underneath and subverting our president. He was elected to do a job and I expect him/her to at least attempt to do what they said they would do while campaigning.

This crap really needs to stop and our government should be doing the work we sent them to do. It seems they are spending their entire time in office, doing anything but what they were sent to do.

Quote: petroglyph

If this is indeed what happened, a US military officer, with the means, undermines the POTUS and advises a foreign head of state against the intents of the president, doesn't that seem illegal?

Not if the President, regardless of a Dem or Repub, acts against the interests of the USA and demands a foreign country meddle in our elections
Its not Trump himself
Its what Trump asked
If a Dem President asked the same , should be impeached

Power corrupts regardless if you are a Dem or a Republican President.
I don't trust anybody

Quote: terapined

Quote: petroglyph

If this is indeed what happened, a US military officer, with the means, undermines the POTUS and advises a foreign head of state against the intents of the president, doesn't that seem illegal?

Not if the President, regardless of a Dem or Repub, acts against the interests of the USA and demands a foreign country meddle in our elections
Its not Trump himself
Its what Trump asked
If a Dem President asked the same , should be impeached

Power corrupts regardless if you are a Dem or a Republican President.
I don't trust anybody

That isn't up for Vindman to decide what the presidents phone calls are legal, if he is undermining the POTUS, regardless of which president is in office. If I were in charge, Vindman would be behind bars, which the POTUS has the authority to do. This subterfuge needs to stop.

Every underling working at the state dept. can't go around the world deciding US policy or being arbiter and judge. At some point, they are just an employee paid to perform their duty's.