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September 10th, 2018 at 1:59:12 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: reno
But let's not make the naive assumption that Congress is occupied by honest, honorable men who would never dream of abusing their power. My point is that the criteria for impeachment & conviction has nothing to do with whether the allegations are serious or whether the evidence is overwhelming. That part is irrelevant. The only criteria for conviction is whether 67 Senators decide it's in their own best interest for their own political careers to remove the President. The bottom line is that the President has no ability to appeal a bogus conviction, and every single member of Congress knows that. All that matters is the next election.

My personal prediction is that the Dems will take the House in November, and the GOP will maintain control of the Senate. I'm predicting that the House will pass Articles of Impeachment in 2019. But there is absolutely no way that 67 Senators will vote to convict. Ain't gonna happen.



I'm going to go point by point....

Agree.
Agree.
Agree.
Agree.

Only disagree is I do not think they House will pass Articles of Impeachment, but I wouldn't bet against it.
September 10th, 2018 at 2:07:09 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: SOOPOO


Only disagree is I do not think they House will pass Articles of Impeachment.


What do they as the impeachable offence,
so far they have nothing. If Mueller had
something, he wouldn't be talking to brothel
madams and porn stars.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 10th, 2018 at 3:54:07 PM permalink
reno
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Evenbob
What do they as the impeachable offence, so far they have nothing.


You seem to be under the mistaken impression that the gentlemen serving in the U.S. Congress are honest.

Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, honest Congressmen, these are myths intended for children. To serve in Congress, you need to be a professional liar. It's in the job description. They're lawyers. (An old joke: What do you call a lawyer gone bad? Senator.)

Nancy Pelosi? Mitch McConnell? Susan Collins? Robert Menendez? Do these people strike you as principled & trustworthy?

So envision a trial where the defendant has no option to appeal the conviction, and the jury is composed of 100 professional liars. I guarantee you: the verdict is determined before any evidence is presented.
September 10th, 2018 at 4:00:54 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: reno
the verdict is determined before any evidence is presented.


Yes, meaning it will never happen.
Unless the president is guilty of
some heinous crime, no senator
in his right mind will vote to remove
a president his own party elected.
If this was a Dem House and Senate,
1/3 of the Repubs are not going to
vote their own man out of office.
It would be suicide for their next
election. That's why it's never happened
and never will happen.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 10th, 2018 at 4:24:59 PM permalink
reno
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 58
Posts: 1326
Quote: Evenbob
Yes, meaning it will never happen.
Unless the president is guilty of
some heinous crime, no senator
in his right mind will vote to remove
a president his own party elected.
If this was a Dem House and Senate,
1/3 of the Repubs are not going to
vote their own man out of office.
It would be suicide for their next
election. That's why it's never happened
and never will happen.


Latest Fox News poll (August 22) has Trump approval at 45%. If he stays in that neighborhood, he'll be fine. Nothing to worry about.

Nixon's all time lowest was 24% (January '74). If Trump crashes below 25%.... forget it. It's over. You think anyone in Congress cares if there's a crime? Ha! That's cute. If Trump ever gets below 25%, they'll remove him for not owning a dog.
September 10th, 2018 at 5:05:10 PM permalink
Dalex64
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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/10/politics/cnn-poll-trump-approval-independents/index.html

CNN's version 36% job approval. Among independents, it dropped from 47% to 31% in a month.

UNfavorability (not job performance) 61% up from 55%

32% see him as honest and trustworthy.

In a different poll, overall most people are happy if not thrilled with the economy, but that positivity has not translated to positives for Trump.

None of that means that the Senate republicans would vote to remove him from office. As things stand now, I don't believe they would.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
September 11th, 2018 at 6:02:55 AM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Posts: 5074
Quote: Dalex64
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/10/politics/cnn-poll-trump-approval-independents/index.html

CNN's version 36% job approval. Among independents, it dropped from 47% to 31% in a month.

UNfavorability (not job performance) 61% up from 55%

32% see him as honest and trustworthy.

In a different poll, overall most people are happy if not thrilled with the economy, but that positivity has not translated to positives for Trump.

None of that means that the Senate republicans would vote to remove him from office. As things stand now, I don't believe they would.


I think Donald’s petty response to John McCain’s passing really hurt him.

Political forecaster Harry Enten:

Quote:
I count... Eight... Count em eight live interview polls finished in the last 2 weeks... Each one has Trump's approval dropping from the last poll.
Are you better off than you were four years ago??
September 11th, 2018 at 7:30:23 AM permalink
reno
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September 11th, 2018 at 8:57:24 AM permalink
terapined
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Trump is an internet troll
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September 11th, 2018 at 9:43:27 AM permalink
fleaswatter
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: reno


YAWN, old news, a one year old tweet by Obama and a FIVE year old tweet by Trump
sleepy Joe has dementia