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February 12th, 2016 at 9:27:24 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 | You know, a being who "knows" the future flaunts all sorts of universal laws of nature as we understand them. But one who created everything at once would "know" the future, much as a writer "knows" the future of all her characters once she's done writing a novel or story. But of course a writer doesn't know the future of her characters. Not in the sense that she sets starting conditions and then knows how things will play out. Rather she makes that future up according to her own purpose. If she "knows" it, it's because she made it that way. There isn't a writer who doesn't love some of her characters, particularly the protagonists. There also isn't a writer who would hesitate to make life difficult for her characters in order to make the story interesting. depending on the story and purpose for writing it, an author will put the characters she loves most through sheer hell, deal them situations from which they'll never recover, kill them, and worse. The difference is that a writer's characters are mere ideas or abstractions in her mind. They do not exist and will never exist, except as words on paper or, at most, images on film. Whereas the human beings "god" allegedly created are very real people. Makes you think what his purpose is in all this, doesn't it, if he "knows" your future because he already made your future. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
February 12th, 2016 at 10:02:43 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18764 | FrGamble if you had the power to stop the atrocities in Syria, Isis, and relieve suffering of refugees and so forth for the next week at least would you use your power? If you wouldn't why not? (OF course this is a trick question) You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
February 12th, 2016 at 10:13:09 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
There is a total lack of evidence for this 'truth'. It's just a bunch of words strung together. Mark Twain said people like to fiddle around with religion, it makes them feel good and keeps them off the streets. Nothing wrong with that, just don't get too carried away with it.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 13th, 2016 at 4:52:38 AM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
Where does this knowledge of the nature of angels come from? Here is a guy with a bunch of bible quotes http://coldcasechristianity.com/2014/what-does-the-bible-say-about-the-nature-and-power-of-angelic-beings/ It looks like he is taking a lot of the bible literally, though, including the story of creation. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
February 13th, 2016 at 9:16:10 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
From people with way way WAY too much time on their hands. When Tolkein wrote Lord of the Rings, he suffered under no illusions that it was a real place. Unfortunately, some people have a difficult time separating fiction from reality. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 15th, 2016 at 8:01:40 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | This is why women can't be priests:
They can't change the policy now no matter how much they might ever want to. They have declared the policy to be infallible, to change the policy would be to destroy the notion of infallibility. Note the requirement of "supernatural faith" and also the statements of infallibility made by councils and popes usually carry an "anathema" of excommunication for anyone who refuses to believe it. As usual, references from wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infallibility_of_the_Church https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
February 15th, 2016 at 8:17:34 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Of course. It's a brilliant Catch 22. 'We really really really want women priests, but shoot, our hands are tied, darn it.' What they really really want is what they have, a completely male dominated patriarchy. And it's crumbling around them, as it must and should. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 15th, 2016 at 8:39:40 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
But eventually they will have to ordain women. When they do, the mental gymnastics will be worthy of an Olympic medal (oh, the irony...), and it will inevitably cause yet another splinter. Or they may resist forever, which will also cause a splinter. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
February 16th, 2016 at 5:29:42 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | I love this. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 16th, 2016 at 6:24:03 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | These questions are a good example of the logical fallacy of false dilemma. There are other possible reasons for the existence of evil besides God not being omnipotent or being malevolent. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |