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February 17th, 2016 at 8:31:37 AM permalink
Face Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 61 Posts: 3941	Quote: Dalex64 I have been trying to think of any groups outside of the religious ones who claim infallibility, or the inability to err. My ex wife. Boom. Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it.

February 17th, 2016 at 11:47:23 AM permalink

Evenbob

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Quote: FrGamble
I think it is you who should get some details about this before you continue to embarrass yourself by attacking a modern day saint.

I did that already, ye of the massive faulty
memory. I produced stories of nurses and
doctors who were there and worked for
her. I'm not doing it again, it's useless
telling you anything. You have no memory
of any past discussion on anything we've
talked about, the Church has so deadened
your brain that all you see is what you've
been told to see.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

February 17th, 2016 at 11:53:52 AM permalink

Evenbob

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Quote: FrGamble
I think you aren't realizing that the presence of God is not enough for us to magically have our desire to sin vanish. .

More gibberish. This god of yours is one
weak sister, he can't do anything. He
can't help anybody, he can't stop anything,
all he can do apparently is hide behind
trees and and peek out timidly once in
awhile, hoping things are going ok. The
powerful god of the OT has been turned
into PeeWee Herman on his red bicycle.

If you need a god so badly, why don't you
invent one that has some balls, the one you
have now is pitiful.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

February 17th, 2016 at 12:18:04 PM permalink
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011	Quote: FrGamble Infallibility is a charism or gift of the one who is the Bishop of Rome, Servant of the Servants of God, Here's gods servant screaming and yelling at the crowd today in Mexico. Doesn't look very pope-like to me. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

February 17th, 2016 at 1:04:22 PM permalink
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687	They don't claim that the pope is infallible. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan

February 17th, 2016 at 1:07:55 PM permalink

Dalex64

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Quote: FrGamble
I think you aren't realizing that the presence of God is not enough for us to magically have our desire to sin vanish. Remember God is not about forcing us to do anything, everything is going to require of us a free act of the will. A saint got to be a saint by constant effort, vigilance, perseverance, forgiveness, grace, and humility. You and I are in the presence of God right now but we can still chose to sin. If God manifested His glory before us right now and a big booming voice said, "I am!" You and I still would have a choice to believe and follow or not. I think you are mistaking the sinlessness of the saints in Heaven as only because they are in the full presence of God and you are overlooking their choices on earth that lead them to respond so completely to God. If you or I were whisked to Heaven today, without a stop in purgatory, we would most likely still have attachments to sin or worldly things and just being in God's presence would not immediately force us to let go of those things. In fact we might be angry and get defensive about the little things we desire or want to hold onto to.

Is it possible to live without sin?

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan

February 17th, 2016 at 3:24:59 PM permalink
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596	Yes, encouraged even. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (

February 17th, 2016 at 4:13:00 PM permalink
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687	Quote: FrGamble Yes, encouraged even. Does one ever go to confessional without sins to confess? "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan

February 17th, 2016 at 5:41:32 PM permalink
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011	Quote: Dalex64 Does one ever go to confessional without sins to confess? Sins are a fiction, they don't exist. So every time they confess it's just flapping their jaws for something to do. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

February 17th, 2016 at 10:04:23 PM permalink

FrGamble

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Quote: Evenbob
More gibberish. This god of yours is one
weak sister, he can't do anything. He
can't help anybody, he can't stop anything,
all he can do apparently is hide behind
trees and and peek out timidly once in
awhile, hoping things are going ok. The
powerful god of the OT has been turned
into PeeWee Herman on his red bicycle.

If you need a god so badly, why don't you
invent one that has some balls, the one you
have now is pitiful.

You think you are being mean and vindictive and you are intending that I am sure, but what you don't realize is that you came closer to understanding God in these insults than in a lot of the other junk you posted. Don't get me wrong you are of course still off base but for the first time I think you might be getting a little warmer.

“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (

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