Simple question?

Quote: FrGamble

Gay sex is not natural period.

Well, neither is celibacy. And a bunch of other things no one should really care if people engage in.

Quote: rxwine

Well, neither is celibacy. And a bunch of other things no one should really care if people engage in.

I never understand this. Celibacy is as far
from natural as you can get, and they
think that's just fine. Yet Gay's are just
doing what comes as natural to them as
falling off a log and they're the ones singled
out. Hypocrisy, thy name is Catholicism..

Quote: Evenbob

No. You mean it's not natural for you.
For many it's completely natural. Quit
setting yourself up as the judge and
jury for what others do in the bedroom,

No, I mean even if it was considered natural for me it is not. I or you or Nareed or the Pope don't get to set ourselves us as the judge and jury of what is natural or true. This is something we just recognize if we with use our reason and not our emotions, passions, or temptations to think through things. What separates us from the animals is our ability to use pure reason to guide our actions and not just our appetites.

Quote: Evenbob

I never understand this. Celibacy is as far
from natural as you can get, and they
think that's just fine. Yet Gay's are just
doing what comes as natural to them as
falling off a log and they're the ones singled
out. Hypocrisy, thy name is Catholicism..

We spend the vast majority of our lives celibate and lots of people don't find a husband or a wife. If anything nature tells us is that celibacy is a natural state for humanity and the joy of marriage and having a family is a great blessing to be treasured.

Quote: FrGamble

If anything nature tells us is that celibacy is a natural state for humanity.

How can anyone take you seriously? Worse than that, you know it's not true. You're not an idiot.

Just think about the amount of time we are sexually active and I think you will get what I am talking about. Yes it is natural to have sex with the opposite gender, but it is obviously natural to not have sex too.

Quote: FrGamble

Just think about the amount of time we are sexually active and I think you will get what I am talking about. Yes it is natural to have sex with the opposite gender, but it is obviously natural to not have sex too.

That doesn't get you out of it anymore than claiming that keeping your eyes open all the time is normal because it is half of normal blinking.

Both blinking, keeping your eyes open, or closing them is natural things our bodies are meant to do.

Quote: FrGamble

I or you or Nareed or the Pope don't get to set ourselves us as the judge and jury of what is natural or true.

To repeat: a guy who believes in talking snakes and virgin births is not qualified to tel me what is natural.

Quote: FrGamble

Both blinking, keeping your eyes open, or closing them is natural things our bodies are meant to do.

And penises aren't just for urinating.