God and Gay Marriage

July 8th, 2015 at 4:13:10 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: reno

Is it even possible for a married gay couple to be chaste, or does their homosexuality automatically disqualify them?


Apparently chaste means so many things
that nobody knows what it really means.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 8th, 2015 at 8:08:13 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Uh oh, even more evidence that people are
born Gay, it starts in the womb. Just like
Gay people have been saying for thousands
of years, they were born Gay. It's something
they cannot change. Saying it's evil or bad
is nonsense, you can't choose the way you're
born.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3265248/Homosexuality-imprinted-genes-Scientists-predict-gay-70-cent-accuracy.html
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October 9th, 2015 at 7:44:23 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob
Uh oh, even more evidence that people are
born Gay, it starts in the womb. Just like
Gay people have been saying for thousands
of years, they were born Gay. It's something
they cannot change. Saying it's evil or bad
is nonsense, you can't choose the way you're
born.


You are sadly mistaken about the Church's teaching. There is nothing evil or bad about having a same-sex attraction.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
October 9th, 2015 at 9:26:14 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
You are sadly mistaken about the Church's teaching. There is nothing evil or bad about having a same-sex attraction.


Who said anything about attraction, are we
in 7th grade? Gay sex is what we're talking
about, one Gay having sex with another Gay.
Who gives a rip about attraction, what does
that have to do with anything.

The fact that people think there is a god that
sits around wringing his hands over who is
doing what to who is mind blowing to me.
It's the epitome of narcissism, of self importance.
Oh my goodness, I'm attracted to Bobby, but
if we 'get together' god will hate me and be
very upset. Kids are dying by the minute in
Africa and god could care less. But he is concerned
about who is diddling who in Funkwater USA.

Good grief.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 9th, 2015 at 7:49:25 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob

The fact that people think there is a god that
sits around wringing his hands over who is
doing what to who is mind blowing to me.
It's the epitome of narcissism, of self importance.


Is there no one who wrings their hands over what you are doing? Is there no one who wants what is the very best for you and loves you? How is that narcissism to have someone who loves you very much? Remember God doesn't just love me or Christians in this way, He loves you and everyone in the same way. It is the epitome of humility and equality.

Quote:
Oh my goodness, I'm attracted to Bobby, but
if we 'get together' god will hate me and be
very upset.


How could God hate you or anyone?!? Who put this crap into your head. You need to go back to Christianity 101. Read John 3:16.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
October 9th, 2015 at 8:41:05 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
Is there no one who wrings their hands over what you are doing? Is there no one who wants what is the very best for you and loves you?


Not in the "I'm watching you, I see everything
you do and hear your every thought" kind of
way. That's just damn creepy.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 9th, 2015 at 8:42:21 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: FrGamble
You are sadly mistaken about the Church's teaching. There is nothing evil or bad about having a same-sex attraction.


But consumating that attraction with physical sex is always sinful under all circumstances, according to the Church. The Church teaches that under certain circumstances, sexual union by faithful married heterosexuals for procreation is acceptable. (Whereas, homosexual sex is never acceptable.)

Please correct me if I am misrepresenting the Church's teachings.
October 9th, 2015 at 9:34:49 PM permalink
FrGamble
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It might be easiest just to say that physical sex is meant for a man and woman who have entered into an unbreakable lifetime covenant of love. The hope is that every act of physical sex unites the couple further in intimacy and deeper in love and is open to the potential of new human life coming from this loving act. So heterosexual or homosexual sex outside of this covenant of marriage is sinful.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
October 9th, 2015 at 9:45:45 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
So heterosexual or homosexual sex outside of this covenant of marriage is sinful.


Who are you or the Church to decide what
people can or can't do in the bedroom.
This is why sin is not real, it's obviously
an invented concept so busybody religious
zealots can keep people in line. It worked
for a very long time, not so much anymore.
Over 50% of Catholics have no problem
with Gay sex or Gay marriage. And that
number will only get larger. Information
and communication has been the bane
of the Church since the printing press
made its debut. The more people know,
the more they can think for themselves.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 9th, 2015 at 11:11:43 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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God and Gay Marriage? He hasn't spoken on that topic.
God and Straight Marriages? He hasn't spoken on that topic.