Bill Cosby, What the Frick?

July 23rd, 2015 at 9:48:15 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: Fleastiff
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It's a circular argument, Fleastiff. You don't believe a man like Cosby could ever commit such heinous crimes. The women say they didn't approach the police in 1980 (or whatever year) because they figured that no one would believe them. If Fleastiff is unwilling to believe 30 of these women in 2015, why would the police have believed 1 woman in 1980?

You're arguing that their silence in 1980 was irrational. I'm arguing that their silence in 1980 was rational. And the reason it was rational is because no one would have believed them. He was a multimillionaire Hollywood superstar with a squeaky clean public image. Everyone loves this guy. More importantly, he had access to the most expensive lawyers on the planet. He could counter-sue these women into bankruptcy with a snap of the finger. Going up against a man with such deep pocket$ would be extremely risky. He would win.
July 24th, 2015 at 12:00:55 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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>It's a circular argument, Fleastiff.
Perhaps.
>You don't believe a man like Cosby could ever commit such heinous crimes.
No, that is not my belief at all.
> The women say they didn't approach the police in 1980 (or whatever year)
did not approach the police, the private attorneys, the rape counselors, their doctors, did not make contemporaneous notes or consult their own shrinks.

> because they figured that no one would believe them.
heck, the Canadian police bagged their major military figure for rape, murder and panty theft. they didn't start out with disbelief... they examined the evidence.

>> If Fleastiff is unwilling to believe 30 of these women in 2015, why would the police have believed 1 woman in 1980?
why are you "vote pooling". It not 30 accusers, not ever! Its accuser number one followed by accuser number two, etc.

Look at McMartin day school. accuser number one: an alcoholic mental patient fond of accusing the Mayor and the Pope.

>You're arguing that their silence in 1980 was irrational.
No. Only strange and a bit suspicious. If any of them have come to the police with contemporaneous diaries and contemporaneous medical records saying "I was raped" or even "I was raped by Cosby" that is better evidence.
> I'm arguing that their silence in 1980 was rational.
No you are concluding based on facts not in evidence that the silence of ALL victims that year was rational. were all women of he same personality, were all poor, were all young. It is strange that all were silent.
>And the reason it was rational is because no one would have believed them.
futility might have been a hurdle to some, probably not all.
> He was a multimillionaire Hollywood superstar with a squeaky clean public image.
You say. Just a jerk to me.
> Everyone loves this guy.
You say. I think that N-word loving fuzz guy from the OJ case would have loved to bag an N on a rape charge.
> More importantly, he had access to the most expensive lawyers on the planet.
> He could counter-sue these women into bankruptcy with a snap of the finger.
> Going up against a man with such deep pocket$ would be extremely risky.
somewhat akin to going up against POTUS and his pal Sheldon in relation to the Israeli attack on the world trade center.

> He would win.
Probably.

I look at teh women and see youth, lack of success, compensation desires, career enhancement, tabloid checks, future book inquiries,

and I look at the exact language of the deposition which discusses "giving drugs to women to enhance their sexual experience and to obtain their consent" but does NOT discuss the issue of unknowing administering such drugs so as to induce consent or induce a nonconsentual stupor of non-resistance.
July 24th, 2015 at 12:38:53 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Fleastiff
>It's a circular argument, Fleastiff.
Perhaps..


Fleastiff stomps his foot and screams 'Dr
Huxtable, er, Bill Cosby, is innocent I tell
you, innocent! As they haul him away, under
deep sedation. So sad, the worshiper of a
fallen hero..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 24th, 2015 at 12:51:52 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Fleastiff

I look at teh women and see youth, lack of success, compensation desires, career enhancement, tabloid checks, future book inquiries,


Yup, but why Bill Cosby?

There's probably 2 or 3 dozen music rock stars who lead lifestyles who present better targets over the same period of time? Can't think of a handful of charges about any of them except one off here or there.

Don't tell me you think they were all more careful and discerning (drug/alcohol use is pretty common).

Cosby managed to find 20 bad apples, whereas most in his situation find at most a couple.
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July 24th, 2015 at 2:16:22 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: rxwine
Cosby managed to find 20 bad apples, whereas most in his situation find at most a couple.
that is the disturbing part, but after the initial publicity about it, its largely up to the tabloids.
July 27th, 2015 at 11:52:45 AM permalink
Evenbob
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‘I’m No Longer Afraid’: 35 Women Tell Their Stories About Being Assaulted by Bill Cosby, and the Culture That Wouldn’t Listen


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If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 27th, 2015 at 1:28:39 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: Evenbob
‘I’m No Longer Afraid’: 35 Women Tell Their Stories About Being Assaulted by Bill Cosby, and the Culture That Wouldn’t Listen


"...One night, he handed her $500
if the currency turned out to counterfeit, she was cheated but not raped.

>and asked her to come up to his suite after his performance.
what did she think the five hundred was for?
> Cosby gave Burns a Scotch on the rocks. She felt as if she were losing control.
was this feeling attributed to the drink? did she say or do anything to indicate she was not in control?
she went to the bed and naked man, she knew where the door was then.

>he forced her? verbally? the same way he "forced" her into the bed while he was naked?

did she go to the cops, a rape center, to a lawyer?
July 27th, 2015 at 8:43:58 PM permalink
zippyboy
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Quote: Evenbob
‘I’m No Longer Afraid’: 35 Women Tell Their Stories About Being Assaulted by Bill Cosby...

Cosby now has raped more victims than I've had consensual sex partners. Congress should sponsor a law removing the statute of limitations on rape...they could call it the Cosby Bill.
July 27th, 2015 at 10:51:20 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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doctrine of latches is common law; statutes of limitation are obviously statutory and very spotty too, but its usually states not federal and as far as I know only virginia has repealed all limitation periods on prosecution.
July 27th, 2015 at 11:18:41 PM permalink
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