Gun Control

My prediction is Barry will shake his fist, warn
them he has a carrier in the Gulf, the GHWB,
and then do absolutely nothing. I think he
loves what's happening, it takes the US down
a peg in the worlds eyes. Barry hates the US.

Quote: Evenbob

"My grandsons are all grown up so I decided to get my NRA card and a concealed weapons permit. If I hadn’t done what I did who knows what those group of boys would have done to me.”

A Canadian would have grabbed her cell
phone and been kicked to death trying
to call 911. The universe usually punishes
the unprepared rather harshly.

People up here get kicked to death all of the time, as there are no concealed weapons. Actually, we kill everyone at age 80, with our death panels and all.

Quote: AZ

Yes, I do. Because as I have said, accidents happen with other things besides guns, but we don't try to ban cars, swimming pools, etc.

A 93 year old woman possibly saved her life, yet you are saying she should not have the right to do that because some kids were fooling around? Really?

Let me give you a very short answer. Yes!!! And that's the difference between you and me.

Quote: boymimbo

Quote: AZDuffman

A 93 year old woman possibly saved her life, yet you are saying she should not have the right to do that because some kids were fooling around? Really?

Let me give you a very short answer. Yes!!! And that's the difference between you and me.

So you'd rather have this woman get beat up and (possibly) die just so you could feel all warm & fuzzy inside about banning guns?

UN-FREAKIN-BELIEVABLE *facepalm*

Quote: boymimbo

Let me give you a very short answer. Yes!!! .

In Canada, you hope for the best, and when that
doesn't work out for somebody, you just shrug
your shoulders and pray it's not you next time.
And you fall asleep thanking god you have a rich,
well armed friendly country just across the border.

That's true, Bob. We also have a slightly different society where the odds of a gang of thugs kicking a 93 year old woman at a bus stop is negligable. Thanks, however, for helping me think more about the ridiculousness of AZ's story.

The story that AZ gave is entirely false. The origin of that story was the "National Report", a satire website. Their website states:

"National Report is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within National Report are fiction, and presumably fake news. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental."

Don't believe everything you read.

We go to sleep both happy that we are allies with the United States yet terrified at the same time for the same reason.

Goodnight, Gracie.

Knockout fights do exist. Random senseless attacks to take place. Drunks do get encountered.

That CCP in the North Las Vegas Walmart got a guy killed because he "intervened" instead of "shooting". There is no guarantee that one who does "shoot" will shoot straight and remember his target's background first.

In rural areas its harder to banish weapons. Legally its hard to banish weapons because there is no constitutional definition of a militia only a contemporaneous notion that they were voluntary bodies created by the general population that voted when and where to have their elections and voted who their officers would be. Banning an assault rifle would be akin to banning a bow and arrow. An interesting experiment but unrelated to a militia of today.

Many responsible gun owners have lapses as to loaded weapons or transport regulations. Many gun owners are irresponsible young punks including one who was filmed by his girlfriend wanting to fire off a round in a motel room. When the girlfriend protested they would get kicked out he tried to compromise by suggesting "just one round". As if that would give them a measure of fun but not be enough to get them kicked out of the room.

Quote: Fleastiff

Knockout fights do exist. Random senseless attacks to take place. Drunks do get encountered.

That CCP in the North Las Vegas Walmart got a guy killed because he "intervened" instead of "shooting". There is no guarantee that one who does "shoot" will shoot straight and remember his target's background first.

In rural areas its harder to banish weapons.

I don't have problems with the 2nd amendment. Clearly, however, society makes accomodations and creates laws to protect the very few and the weak.

Airport security: 99.9999% of us don't carry weapons or metal onto planes, yet we all must take off our shoes and belts and pass through metal detectors.

Peanut Allergies: 99% of us don't have a peanut allergy, yet at many schools, you aren't allowed to take peanut product to school in case someone has a reaction.

Cars: 99.9999% of cars are safe, yet recalls are performed to millions of cars due to an incident on very few automobiles.

Child Pornogprahy: 99.99% of people do not get turned on by pictures of naked children, but because .01% do, there are strict laws against showing pictures of naked children on the internet.

Guns: 99.99% of people handle guns responsibly, but then there's these two idiots.

Quote: Lame-stream media, ABC News

"Two Michigan drivers shot and killed each other Wednesday night after a road rage incident took a fatal turn in a drive-in car wash parking lot, police said.

Robert Taylor, 56, and James Pullum, 43, were driving on a highway in Ionia, Mich., when Taylor began to closely follow Pullum, according to the Ionia Public Safety Department, based on witness reports.

The two drivers eventually pulled into the parking lot of Wonder Wand Car Wash, at the intersection of M-66 highway and Steele Street. where they got out of their vehicles and fired shots at each other, police said. The two men exchanged a total of eight to nine shots, police said.

The drivers were transported to Sparrow Ionia Hospital, where they were pronounced dead shortly after 7 p.m. local time, authorities said."

That story, unfortunately, is very true.

Quote: Fleastiff

Many gun owners are irresponsible young punks including one who was filmed by his girlfriend wanting to fire off a round in a motel room. When the girlfriend protested they would get kicked out he tried to compromise by suggesting "just one round". As if that would give them a measure of fun but not be enough to get them kicked out of the room.

I blame a lot of this on out junk pop culture. People see things on a screen so they figure they can do it in real life. You can't stop stupidity. If it wasn't a gun in a motel room it might be a potato gun in his backyard.

IMHO while the military draft is not needed nor does it produce a better army, it did smack this kind of behavior out of people. Back then you were forced to grow up when you went in. Today kids can drift from teenager to mid-20s without growing up. I think we have all seen it happen.

Quote: boymimbo

Let me give you a very short answer. Yes!!! And that's the difference between you and me.

Let me ask you, boymimbo, because this would clear a lot of things up. Do you value deaths differently based on circumstance? Or do all deaths register the same for you? They register very differently for me, and I wonder if that might be a part of our differences in beliefs.

For example, my 80yr old granpa is not long for this world. When he dies, I will be very sad. He is a large part of my life. But dying after 80 will just bring sadness. There's no sorrow, regret, anger; he lived a long and good life. And I know there will be some joy peppered in there, as his passing will cause a flood of memories of him, all of which were great. Those memories will return me to the happiest moments in my life.

If my Pops died of a natural event, say a heart attack, it would be different. There would still be sadness, but there would also be regret, there would be grief. I'd wonder why he went so early, wonder if I should've tried harder to spend more time with him, get him out of the house and excersize. It would be different.

If he died from an accident, it would be different still. There would be sadness and grief and regret, but there would be an element of anger. Why'd he have to go hunting alone, why did he try to cut down that tree by himself, whatever. It would be different.

If he died from negligence, say a drunk driver or, yes, an irresponsible gun owner, there would be sadness and regret and grief and anger, but that anger would probably trump them all. I would be mad as hell that someone could be so stupid and irresponsible. I would be pushed into the land of wanting justice, but not into the land of wanting revenge.

If he died from malice, though... that takes the cake. Sadness, regret, grief... all those would be present, but they'd be blown away by the murderous rage I'd succumb to. All the other deaths I look at as a part of life, a roll of the dice, a turn of the cards. But death by purpose is something I cannot handle and will not stand for. If someone were to attempt to murder my father or mother or son, then they must die and I will try to see that it is so, immediately.

Just about any tragedy I can forgive, any injury for any reason I can handle Christ-like. But malice I cannot tolerate. Even these videos of purposeful malice caught on tape make me shake with rage.

That is a large part of why I "take the chance" of being a gun owner, and why I support it for everyone else. I know there's idiot gun owners out there, hell, I'm friends with some. But being shot by a retard friend or shooting myself in a reloading accident weighs waaaaay different for me than being shot by some punk that wants me dead. Assuming I survive, the first two I mentally get over that day and go on with life. The last one though will haunt me for life, and twist me into someone I don't want to be. Someone no one wants me to be.

Is there not that extreme difference for you?