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Quote: beachbumbabs

I think that, if I were involved with a gender-altered person, I would want to know that, and I hope that the person I was personally involved with was both secure enough and respected me enough to tell me before any hands went down any pants. Just like I would want to know, before I was involved, with a person with young children, a married man, a bisexual, or a person with an STD. But any of that is only my business because I'm considering getting personally and sexually involved with that person.

A fair and honest answer, thanks.

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If someone floats your boat, does it really matter whether their vagina is natural or surgical?

If you're already kidding yourself, what does it matter who they used to be? They're Miss Right Now.

Quote: YeahBaby

that would never happen cuz they don't look like real women. DUH!

Yeah, I'm sure Az would have figured it out in time, dumb hypothesis. Never paid much attention to it. In my naivety , skimming through the thread my mind froze on talking about the knife and hormones. Especially the knife.

Quote: petroglyph

Yeah, I'm sure Az would have figured it out in time, dumb hypothesis. Never paid much attention to it. In my naivety , skimming through the thread my mind froze on talking about the knife and hormones. Especially the knife.

I have put many of these men and women to sleep for their surgeries. But I have never watched the actual castration and penectomy. Not necessary for me to do so, and I don't care to. My gut feelings are similar to AZ's, but I am here to help people, and my feelings are subordinate to theirs. And AZ, I am disappointed that you won't answer my question, what bathroom do you want a born male now with a female constructed body to use?

Quote: Face

It does bother me when people are upset. I am bothered now that you're upset. And I can guarantee you I'll spend the entirety of my day tomorrow going over every facet of this issue.

As promised.

You ever have a long post in your head and decide not to write it? Ever write one and then delete it? The number of deletions in my name number in the hundreds. I just deleted another. Because after a day of thought over yesterday's events, and then a viewing of today's posts, I just don't care enough anymore.

Quote: Evenbob

Just live how you like at this point
and don't worry about it.

I maintain that I will not force pronouns unto those who find it displeasing. It would not be right to do so. However, I recognize Nareed's hurt and will not stand by and watch it happen. So to alleviate all issues, those with pronoun discomfort shall simply refer to her as her proper noun "Nareed", or as has been done for the last 1,300days+, you can not refer to her at all. Improper use of pronoun will result in standard Martingale punishment, and that includes taunts directed at members not associated with this specific thread and/or topic.

Simple enough, right? Seem fair?

Embarrassing, folks. Between the many good and fair members who haven't ever caused a problem a day in their membership, those who provide good, decent, helpful content day after day, to our host who at great expense of time and capitol has provided us an outlet free of charge and with little commitment, I feel shame to oversee the state of where we are right now. A great many of you take in an attempt to one-up an enemy you have constructed in your head, seemingly unaware of the fact that when you take you take from all. You emulate the lowest common denominator compelled solely by the reason of "they did it first", in a race to the bottom that somehow you are all winning.

I'll never understand it. But it's done now. I implore you to fix it by this time tomorrow, because you know I will have to if you don't.

Quote: Face

I maintain that I will not force pronouns unto those who find it displeasing. It would not be right to do so. However, I recognize Nareed's hurt and will not stand by and watch it happen. So to alleviate all issues, those with pronoun discomfort shall simply refer to her as her proper noun "Nareed", or as has been done for the last 1,300days+, you can not refer to her at all. Improper use of pronoun will result in standard Martingale punishment, and that includes taunts directed at members not associated with this specific thread and/or topic.

Simple enough, right? Seem fair?

Sounds fair to me. That was the idea I came up with in my head, but thought your post yesterday seemed kind of final so I didn't bother suggesting it.

The above was the best I could manage as an official post. This is just me as a member.

Answering questions is easy. I've had this one posed many a time. I've thought of it independently, perhaps after reading a story or event. An no, I cannot conceive of a situation where I'd be sexually or romantically attracted to a trans woman. Additionally, I feel if a situation were to occur where it did happen without my knowledge, I would be quite upset indeed.

That being said, the sexual preferences of one man, of a hundred men, of the majority of men have f#$% all to do with the topic at hand. The fact that womanhood is being reduced to "How sexually attractive one is" is some of the most... I don't even know. Jesus, man, ain't no dudes lined up outside my mama's door, but I sure as s@#$ didn't buy her a jock and a pouch of Redman for Christmas.

What planet is this even?

Quote: Face

As promised.
I maintain that I will not force pronouns unto those who find it displeasing. It would not be right to do so. However, I recognize Nareed's hurt and will not stand by and watch it happen. So to alleviate all issues, those with pronoun discomfort shall simply refer to her as her proper noun "Nareed", or as has been done for the last 1,300days+, you can not refer to her at all. Improper use of pronoun will result in standard Martingale punishment, and that includes taunts directed at members not associated with this specific thread and/or topic.

Simple enough, right? Seem fair?

Nice one matey.

Quote: ams288

Sounds fair to me. That was the idea I came up with in my head, but thought your post yesterday seemed kind of final so I didn't bother suggesting it.

I appreciate the acceptance.

But for the record, I try where possible to never be final. I do much prefer "one and done" type proclamations, as flipping and flopping to every whim can be problematic. But I do appreciate critique and input, as I'm no specialist with this stuff. A lot of things I have to shoot from the hip, so pointing out obvious errors or flaws in my thinking is desired.

Quote: Face

I implore you to fix it by this time tomorrow, because you know I will have to if you don't.

Fix what by tomorrow, what the heck
do you mean. You quote me and then
say fix it. Fix what.

Quote: Face

The above was the best I could manage as an official post. This is just me as a member.

Answering questions is easy. I've had this one posed many a time. I've thought of it independently, perhaps after reading a story or event. An no, I cannot conceive of a situation where I'd be sexually or romantically attracted to a trans woman. Additionally, I feel if a situation were to occur where it did happen without my knowledge, I would be quite upset indeed.

That being said, the sexual preferences of one man, of a hundred men, of the majority of men have f#$% all to do with the topic at hand. The fact that womanhood is being reduced to "How sexually attractive one is" is some of the most... I don't even know. Jesus, man, ain't no dudes lined up outside my mama's door, but I sure as s@#$ didn't buy her a jock and a pouch of Redman for Christmas.

What planet is this even?

Thank you. Great post.