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April 21st, 2023 at 3:02:14 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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I always had the opposite issue.

Too many women.

It takes much discipline and knowing self.


Feminazis are not the women you want to be around much less date. Their politics is all they have in their lives. They will only date Omega males, maybe the occasional Beta. They spend life angry and miserable.
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April 21st, 2023 at 3:38:41 PM permalink
DoubleGold
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AZDuffman, I was trained pretty good.

A firm I was with when younger had attorneys come in and explain to us about sexual harassment, etc.

About the same time the internet became popular.

So I was doubly fortunate to be trained and protected by the internet (vetted women before meeting them).

I never got stuck with women like gold diggers, tattoos, leftward radicals, colored hair purple dyed, fake breasts, overweight, etc.
April 21st, 2023 at 5:09:01 PM permalink
Mission146
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You could drive an F-350 thru that. Only real "necessary" would be legit intersexed people. The rest is elective. And when you say you have to pay for any elective surgery you no longer have "insurance" you have an indirect payment system.


"Necessary," would be whatever the doctors describe as medically necessary. Determinations of medical necessity should be made by doctors, not insurance companies.

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And you think socialized medical countries do not have people to pay?


I don't imagine they have insurance representatives and salespeople to pay, no.

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I almost died last year. I was able to get the care I needed fast. Under socialized medicine I probably would have had to wait around, based on wait times for an MRI in Canada alone I figure that. The thing is American health care costs more because Americans use more and demand Cadillac care not Kia care. The profit margin on health insurance is not that high.


I don't care who lives or dies. We should reduce prices to the greatest extent possible. I don't care if it's socialized medicine or if it's cash, but the insurance industry would be gone, gone, gone, if I had my way. They add to overall system costs without adding to value.

If the profit margin on something that costs money and does not add value is more than 0%, then the profit margin is too high.
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April 22nd, 2023 at 2:39:53 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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"Necessary," would be whatever the doctors describe as medically necessary. Determinations of medical necessity should be made by doctors, not insurance companies.


That's like saying your body shop should be allowed to bill your insurance company for an entire paint job for a small dent. Every trans doctor would say "medically necessary." Do you think under socialized medicine they just say "medically necessary" and start cutting? They have an approval process same as we do.



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I don't imagine they have insurance representatives and salespeople to pay, no.


They still have a huge staff to pay.



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I don't care who lives or dies. We should reduce prices to the greatest extent possible. I don't care if it's socialized medicine or if it's cash, but the insurance industry would be gone, gone, gone, if I had my way. They add to overall system costs without adding to value.

If the profit margin on something that costs money and does not add value is more than 0%, then the profit margin is too high.


So you are saying that the grocery store should not have profit since it does not add value to your grocery purchase? That the gas station should not have a profit margin since it does not add value to your purchase?

There is nothing wrong with profit. And when you have an industry that worries about its profit margin you have an industry that watches costs. If we had the government running things we would just see annual price increases and probably little innovation. Happens every time.
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April 22nd, 2023 at 3:35:47 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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One of my beliefs: The business of insurance is so steeped in mendacity that there is absolutely no hope they could ever come out of it. Being steeped in mendacity for thousands of years has its effects.

So you can see I'm not comfortable defending that industry. However, there is such a thing as a necessary evil, and such a thing as a lessor evil. In the matter of health care in the US, I'm not ready to make the case that private health insurance should be ditched, or that it is the cause of all the problems.

What the public has come to expect is not for health insurance to be provided, but instead a national Health Care System. A proper role for insurance would be to cover only catastrophic expense. Ordinary expenses would be paid out of pocket. You would use your insurance when you had paid into it, and then had the illness, not when you had not paid into it, had no insurance, then had the illness, and expected to be able to start paying for a policy to get covered for your current problem... not anymore than you can have a vehicle collision, no insurance, but then call a company and ask to start paying for a policy that would cover the collision you just had.

My experience with explaining this to people is for them to react in complete horror. Then I realized the problem was semantics. I just don’t like the misuse of the word ‘insurance’ to describe what people receive and use to cover their costs of health care. People don’t want insurance [only], they want a system that is in place to take care of needs that arise. They want things like regular visits to the doctor plus care for cuts and bruises, etc, are paid for in a monthly paid pre-payment arrangement [plus usually a small co-pay]. All needed care is never outright denied, even if this means going to the emergency room of a hospital as the only means available. Denial of obtaining a new policy due to pre-existing conditions? That means denial of health care to people who need it but would never have been paying for a policy. That had to go

I’m for much of this too, especially the latter. I just don’t like the current system where private insurance companies are expected to provide a system for paying for all these things that are not properly considered insurance. This has consequences, including the need to satisfy stockholders that profits will be healthy. And my main beef all those years I was working was I would be able to get enrolled into programs providing all these services I didn’t want, like pre-payment of ordinary expenses. I was instead quite happy to pay for those as needed, and often did... without being able to take it off my taxes, which would have been a nice alternative. All these plans were all about hand-wringing over HMO or PPO or I dont know what … all stuff I didn’t want. Unexpected catastrophic expense? Everybody needs that, yet limits were in place in these employer provided plans. Go it alone and just buy your own policy? System not set up for that, you’d be crazy to pay it … at least I would have been for what my assets were like at the time.

So are we to blame the insurance companies for this big mess?
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April 22nd, 2023 at 3:54:43 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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The root of the issue is the value of life.


No system related to preserving life can survive, if life itself is not the highest priority.

It doesn't matter if it's socialism, communism, or capitalism.

There has to be a premium for the value of life.


If a culture allows abortion, then that removes the premium of life in all other areas, like wars, medical system, murders, drug addiction, etc.

The primary motive has to be to save lives.


If the premium of life is in place and high enough, then capitalism comes second.

If those two items have been satisfied, then the healthcare efficiency can improve.

Otherwise, the issues will never be resolved.
April 22nd, 2023 at 4:29:33 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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The answer is not to outlaw abortion.

Because that would override a person's will.


A person has to be able to choose to place a premium on life.


So the premium of life has to occur within each person (the majority of persons).

It cannot be enforced.


If the majority of persons choose to place a premium on life, then the system can change for the better.
April 22nd, 2023 at 5:12:22 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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The root of choice depends on a person's state of conscience.


The state of conscience is what determines right and wrong.

Before we make a choice, our life force runs through the conscience.


So to influence the majority to make a specific choice, the value has to come from each person's conscience.

If a person doesn't place a premium on life, then that's where each person can look.


If a conscience is negatively affected, it'll show up in other areas of a person's life.
April 22nd, 2023 at 5:22:34 AM permalink
ams288
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Does this sound familiar to anyone here?

Brilliant essay about how the online anti-vax idiots became anti-trans idiots seemingly overnight:

Why are anti-vaxxers all anti-trans now?
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
April 22nd, 2023 at 5:39:03 AM permalink
rxwine
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Does this sound familiar to anyone here?

Brilliant essay about how the online anti-vax idiots became anti-trans idiots seemingly overnight:

Why are anti-vaxxers all anti-trans now?


Hah, penis police. I may have to include that in my next missive to DeSantis. "You want to be the governor or the penis police?"

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But there are plausible reasons why these far-right, conspiracy and ‘gender critical’ groups have coalesced into one huge brigade of the penis police.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.