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Quote: Mission146

That's not even remotely close to what he said.

Anyway, I wouldn't take my kids to any drag shows at the age of eight years old...especially given the fact that neo-Nazis have a recent history of showing up to these things, but if it is not an overtly sexual performance, then it is not for me to tell other parents what to do or not do.

I also don't agree with equating the potential for harm of the top three of SOOPOO's list with that of a kid attending a drag show, but I don't think SOOPOO is literally suggesting that the potential for harm is the same in all cases.

I didn’t ‘equate the potential for harm’. Of course the first three are worse. Do we only outlaw the three worst of 4 bad things because the 4th is not as bad but still really bad? That makes no sense.

I guess you all are against movies being rated R or X because that prevents a parent from letting their kids see the movie?

Quote: SOOPOO

I didn’t ‘equate the potential for harm’. Of course the first three are worse. Do we only outlaw the three worst of 4 bad things because the 4th is not as bad but still really bad? That makes no sense.

Taking an 8 year old to a drag show isn’t a bad thing though!*

I think it is a very bigoted statement to categorically say taking an 8 year old to a drag show is bad.


*depending on the show of course. Some are R-rated. Don’t take your kids to those

Quote: SOOPOO

I didn’t ‘equate the potential for harm’. Of course the first three are worse. Do we only outlaw the three worst of 4 bad things because the 4th is not as bad but still really bad? That makes no sense.

I guess you all are against movies being rated R or X because that prevents a parent from letting their kids see the movie?

Nothing prevents a parent from letting their kid watch a movie at home, though I suppose some other laws could in extremely gross situations. However, if you take a movie like The Terminator (Rated R) I don't think there are any laws that would prevent a parent from allowing a kid to watch that movie in the privacy of their own home.

Thus, for home purposes, I see the ratings as just a suggestion more than anything.

Movie theaters, I assume, are making a choice to either allow, or not allow, minors into movies pursuant to the ratings of the MPAA. I also assume that theaters could potentially be exposed to civil lawsuits if they did not conform to the standards of the MPAA, but it's important to note the MPAA is not a function of Government in the first place. It's a non-profit corporation wherein its members agree, by virtue of their membership, that they will adhere to the MPAA's guidelines.

Also, movie theaters can deny admission to a child they deem too young for a movie, even if that child is with a parent. It's the movie theater's property, so why couldn't they?

Anyway, no, I have no reason to oppose the movie rating system. I actually see the MPAA as a positive as it enables parents to make informed decisions as to what movies they wish or do not wish to take their kids to as there is a rating and stated reasons that a movie was given that rating.

Quote: ams288

Taking an 8 year old to a drag show isn’t a bad thing though!*

I think it is a very bigoted statement to categorically say taking an 8 year old to a drag show is bad.


*depending on the show of course. Some are R-rated. Don’t take your kids to those

Is, "Bigoted," the right word? I don't think drag performers are a specifically protected class. I think this is a really simple matter of parents being in charge of what they wish, or do not wish, to expose their kids to. I certainly don't think drag performances are automatically sexual, or even necessarily have to advocate for alternative sexualities. As I understand it, many drag queens aren't even gay.

Quote: Mission146

Is, "Bigoted," the right word?

I think so.

This anti-drag hysteria is coming from a place of hate. It certainly isn’t logical.

Quote: ams288

I think so.

This anti-drag hysteria is coming from a place of hate. It certainly isn’t logical.

Let's keep in mind that a very high percentage of these people are going to be religious, so that it is illogical comes as no surprise.

I grew up without the full Christopher Columbus story of who he was and what he did. Was that a benefit in the long run. Nope. I think it's better if kids grow up with a wider perspective earlier. We don't need to minimize the good some people did, but it should have been done in the proper perspective to start with to the benefit of everyone.

I have no idea what's bad about a Drag queen. Or dancing around. Er, should we not a have someone dressed as a clown in a classroom? Or dancing around? Aren't they supposed to look exaggerated with crazy makeup? Clowns are practically the definition of childhood. Or used to be. (Despite evil clown movies)

As long as I'm rambling here. Do you think there is a problem with parents who are allowed to take their young kids to a nude beach? Do the kids grow up to be terrible human beings?

If you take a nude beach in France and drop it in the middle of Afghanistan, who is the real problem, the nude beach people or the reaction you would get by the very conservative Taliban? I know who I'm picking.

Okay, enough rambling.

For the moment.

What's dangerous to kids is a guy like a Sandusky. Everyday guy in plain sight. Celebrated coach. And nothing wrong with that. But what was the real problem there? It sure wasn't looking or acting like a drag queen.

Quote: Mission146

Let's keep in mind that a very high percentage of these people are going to be religious, so that it is illogical comes as no surprise.

But
What is the illogical logic to be against heterosexual males dressing as a females just as a joke.
Are the Hoggs dressed as women at a redskins game somehow against religion or is this some kind of sin?????? The Hoggs are illegal in TN. It's absurd