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Quote: AZDuffman

They have already said as much. I still predict failure, Playboy is going to look like Cadillac in the 1980s when they half-assed tried to imitate the German cars. From a pioneer to a "me too!" mag.

Remember when the word Cadillac meant top of the line. Like this is the Cadillac of sail boats. Then the leaders at Cadillac came out with
the Cadillac Cimarron.

Quote: buzzardknot

Remember when the word Cadillac meant top of the line. Like this is the Cadillac of sail boats. Then the leaders at Cadillac came out with
the Cadillac Cimarron.

reminds me I was watching a review of a new Cadillac on MT not too long ago. As a matter of fact...

Quote: Face

It's the correct call.

Murder is usually given if there was intent to kill. Here, they were intending to beat someone. It'd be kind of like if I lost my temper and clunked a putz upside the head with my hockey stick. I sure intended it to hurt, but I didn't mean to kill him. As they did a purposeful violent act that resulted in a death, they're probably looking at voluntary manslaughter, as opposed to involuntary. But still manslaughter.

getting back to this....

Manslaughter is called 3rd Degree Murder in law. Not sure if it depends on the jurisdiction what they call it, but it has caused me to think of homicide like this:

*1st Degree: a planned killing
*2nd Degree: an death where rage played a large role, mostly, at least, unplanned
*3rd Degree: accidental but with negligence

in Face's hypothetical, it might go 3rd degree but 2nd degree would have to be considered [should he have expected the whack to possibly be lethal or was it reasonable to think it wouldn't be?]

as for the Church members, 4 of them are charged with 2nd degree murder, it's the parents charged with manslaughter.

my elders when I was growing up talked about some relative [indeed a preacher] who was notorious for whipping his son IIRC. They disapproved, saying he would say he was beating the Devil out of him, apparently meaning it literally. I wonder if this Church was practicing that, believing in demons and such.

Quote: odiousgambit

my elders when I was growing up talked about some relative [indeed a preacher] who was notorious for whipping his son IIRC. They disapproved, saying he would say he was beating the Devil out of him, apparently meaning it literally. I wonder if this Church was practicing that, believing in demons and such.

I suppose you could get into all kinds of justifications.

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And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Quote: buzzardknot

Remember when the word Cadillac meant top of the line. Like this is the Cadillac of sail boats. Then the leaders at Cadillac came out with
the Cadillac Cimarron.

I remember well. I am amazed how strong a brand "Cadillac" was at one time that we still use it to mean best of the best. No normal person say "Lexus of X." We know half a dozen cars are better, but none has that feel. I still remember at age 5 when relatives had one it was something special.

Always wanted to grow up and own a Lincoln Continental. No you can not tell a Lincoln From a Cadillac from a Buick

Quote: buzzardknot

Remember when the word Cadillac meant top of the line. Like this is the Cadillac of sail boats. Then the leaders at Cadillac came out with
the Cadillac Cimarron.

I bought a Cadillac Allante in the early 1990's. They were trying to compete with the Mercedes SL convertible. The Allante was innovative, technological, and a piece of crap. Worst car mechanically that I ever owned.

Quote: DRich

I bought a Cadillac Allante in the early 1990's. They were trying to compete with the Mercedes SL convertible. The Allante was innovative, technological, and a piece of crap. Worst car mechanically that I ever owned.

I liked the Allante but the problem was Cadillac was trying to sell it as something it was not. Had they positioned it as a modern T-Bird but nicer they might have gotten somewhere. But it was priced 10 grand too high and they made believe it was in the same class as Mercedes. Nobody bought that it was.

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Super Typhoon Koppu made landfall early Sunday in the Philippines, toppling trees, knocking out power and communications, and destroying homes.

Forecasters feared the storm could pound parts of the country with as much as 6 feet of rain and cause catastrophic flooding.

6 feet? Wonder if that's right. Can't imagine a forecast of 6 feet of rain. I'd be running for the hills. (mountains)

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/super-typhoon-koppu-makes-landfall-philippines-n446541

Quote: rxwine

6 feet? Wonder if that's right. Can't imagine a forecast of 6 feet of rain.

It's 6". 6' is Noah's Ark.